Cryptome: PayPal a 'liar, cheat and a thug'
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/10/cryptome_paypal/print.html> The Register Cryptome: PayPal a 'liar, cheat and a thug' Account still restricted By Andrew Orlowski (andrew.orlowski@theregister.co.uk) Posted in ID, 10th March 2010 16:10 GMT "PayPal is a fucking liar, a cheat and a thug," says Cryptome operator John Young. The eBay-owned payment service closed the Cryptome account last week, with over $5,000 of donations intended for Young in limbo. Last night Anuj Nayar, PayPal's global director of communications, told us by email that Cryptome's account had been restored, but evidence provided by Young contradicts this. Screenshots of the Cryptome PayPal account show Young cannot withdraw money, but can only return donations to donors to the whistleblower website. "I can confirm that all funds associated with Cryptome have been released," said Nayar. Screenshots clearly show the Cryptome account unable to transfer money to another account. Young has refunded donors from his own pocket. With reasoning worthy of a Kafka plot, PayPal told Cryptome it couldn't provide a reason for shutting down the account. "In accordance with our Privacy Policy, we cannot share any specific information regarding this Account with you," Young was told. Cryptome's PayPal account Young has asked that PayPal provide "any information requested/subpoened of PayPal about me or my website from government, law enforcement, commercial or private parties". He told us: "Cryptome (http://www.cryptome.org) refunded about $5300 on March 5, 2010 without action by PayPal while the account was frozen. No funds have been withdrawn. The account was, and is still, frozen except for the capability of making refunds which I chose to do to get the wad out of PayPal's hands where PayPal could use them for its own purposes contrary to the purposes of the donors." Cryptome has recently published law enforcement liaison guides from companies including Microsoft, Facebook and PayPal.
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:13:38AM -0600, Steve Furlong wrote:
PayPal a 'liar, cheat and a thug'
Surely no one disputes that statement?
Nope. They are. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
Cryptome: PayPal a 'liar, cheat and a thug'
Yeah, no kidding: John, I hate to break the news, but this issue is *really* old news. Paypal has been famous for this for going on 15 years now. Because of this behaviour, there are a ton of people on eBay who wont accept PayPal, and there are any number of "anti paypal" website up. For example: PayPalSucks.com PayPalSucks.org PayPalSucks.net paypal.ctyme.com/paypal/paypalsucks.htm (warning: Perkel site) www.aboutpaypal.org/paypal_sucks knaddison.com/opinions/why-i-hate-paypal-why-paypal-sucks this list is endless. I gave up on these f-heads many years ago, after a run-in with a scammer on eBay managed to get a refund for an item he never shipped (yeah, he got the money, and I got squat). Paypal needs a Nuclear Enema. //Alif -- "Never belong to any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty." Joseph Pulitzer, 1907 Speech
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Eugen Leitl
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J.A. Terranson
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R.A. Hettinga
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Steve Furlong