RE: Slashdot | Google Expands Usenet Archive to 20 Years
From: Jim Choate[SMTP:ravage@ssz.com] http://slashdot.org/articles/01/12/11/0727218.shtml
What expanded capability for ego-surfing! What expanded ability for better-forgotten posts to rise from the dead! Seriously, this is neat. My earliest listed posting is from 28 November '82. The first mention of the cypherpunks list appears to be a post from Eric Hughes on 25 September '92, which refers to the list as 'recently formed'. It's nostalgic to see all the bang!path addresses and .arpa hosts. Peter Trei
On Tuesday, December 11, 2001, at 08:07 AM, Trei, Peter wrote:
What expanded capability for ego-surfing! What expanded ability for better-forgotten posts to rise from the dead!
Seriously, this is neat. My earliest listed posting is from 28 November '82. The first mention of the cypherpunks list appears to be a post from Eric Hughes on 25 September '92, which refers to the list as 'recently formed'.
Yes, it's great to see Google finally get around to doing what DejaNews said would be done. Interestingly, I see a January 1992 use of the term "cypherpunks": http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22cypherpunks%22&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind= 17&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=9&selm=1992Jan11. 232019.3543%40highlite.uucp This predates Jude Milhon's naming of our list by about 9 months. And the earlier reference was not in the same context. Still, interesting. A search on "cypherpunk" gives a history of the term and the early meetings at the Hackers Conference, the early CP meetings, etc.: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cypherpunk&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=17&as_minm= 5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=1&selm=1992Nov16.154438. 14092%40kumr.lns.com The first mention of "cryptoanarchy" (the spelling I used then) is in a 9 January 1991 post from John Gilmore, citing my item on cryptoanarchy at the 1990 Hackers Conference: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=cryptoanarchy&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=17& as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=11&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1992&rnum=1&selm=14631%40hoptoad. uucp " Cryptology, Computer Networks, and Big Brother Tim May slide presentation Views privacy and freedom from the point of view of "cryptoanarchy", in which cryptographic technology provides people the ability to communicate in privacy, despite the best efforts of governments to prevent their doing so. Examines technical developments that led to it, and social possibilities that result from it. (I wrote "The Cryptoanarchist Manifesto" for the 1988 Crypto Conference, where it was privately distributed to a few folks. I'd been using the term in talks around the Bay Area for several months prior to this, e.g., in a talk with Marc Stiegler, Phil Salin, Jim Bennett, Dave Ross, Chip Morningstar, Randy Farmer, and some others.) --Tim May "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." -- Nietzsche
At 11:07 AM 12/11/2001 -0500, Trei, Peter wrote:
From: Jim Choate[SMTP:ravage@ssz.com] http://slashdot.org/articles/01/12/11/0727218.shtml
It's nostalgic to see all the bang!path addresses and .arpa hosts.
I was surprised that among their lists for first this and that they didn't list the first use of a .com, .net, or .edu address on Usenet. There were lots of @-style addresses even in the first few months (viz. the TCP-IP-Digest article), but they were pre-DNS person@machine formats, where the machine names were relative to the sender's hosts [.txt] file and were therefore not in theory globally unique names, though in practice they usually were.
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