CDR: Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"
Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore. Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors." I never thought I'd hear this bizarre notion extended to the vote, though! --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results and assign electors accordingly. Or perhaps one household per state. I volunteer Tim and his cats to to represent California. I know the way Nietzsche would vote, at least. -Declan On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 04:26:21PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore.
Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors."
I never thought I'd hear this bizarre notion extended to the vote, though!
--Tim May
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At 8:55 PM -0500 11/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results and assign electors accordingly.
Or perhaps one household per state. I volunteer Tim and his cats to to represent California. I know the way Nietzsche would vote, at least.
I put a ballot in front of him, consisting of three open cans of cat food: Gore: O O : Buchanan Bush: O He spoiled his ballot by eating out of more than one can, though, so he has now brought in Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tawana Brawley, and Morris the Cat to argue that he was confused and should be given a "do over." --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
Tim May wrote:
I put a ballot in front of him, consisting of three open cans of cat food:
Gore: O
O : Buchanan
Bush: O
He spoiled his ballot by eating out of more than one can, though, so he has now brought in Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tawana Brawley, and Morris the Cat to argue that he was confused and should be given a "do over."
Funny, I did sorta' the same thing here, only I got 3 cats and only one can of, er, "ballot". It was a landslide. Of course, these 3 (Mama Fritzi and her two offspring, P-Boy and Rachel) are feral cats never had no learnin' except the street. More than a bit spooky, and quick to strike out with fang and claw, also quick to disappear when strangers come. I trust their judgement. Mama Fritzi learnt 'em well -- always have a good deep hidey-hole, rip the shit outa' anybody lays a hand on you, and move fast. They guard me when I sleep.
At 17:52 -0800 11/9/00, Tim May wrote:
At 8:55 PM -0500 11/9/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I suggest that we find one county for each state that we believe to be representative, let them vote, and then extrapolate from their results and assign electors accordingly.
Or perhaps one household per state. I volunteer Tim and his cats to to represent California. I know the way Nietzsche would vote, at least.
I put a ballot in front of him, consisting of three open cans of cat food:
Gore: O
O : Buchanan
Bush: O
He spoiled his ballot by eating out of more than one can, though, so he has now brought in Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tawana Brawley, and Morris the Cat to argue that he was confused and should be given a "do over."
--Tim May
OH GOD!!! This means that assuming you vote correctly, OVER HALF of California's ballots will have been spoiled! I demand a recount, the will of the peple has been thwarted... -- "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- Justice William O. Douglas ____________________________________________________________________ Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott <mailto:kelliott@mac.com> ICQ#23758827
At 07:27 PM 11/9/00 -0500, Tim May wrote:
Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore.
Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors."
I never thought I'd hear this bizarre notion extended to the vote, though!
Much as it was decided that the constitution does not allow statisticians to play with congressional districts, they may decide similarly for votes, if it comes to that.
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