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Ask yourself this, Why does CNN have nothing on the 9th Circuit ruling related to 'free speech' expression of 'violent acts'? Is 'civil liberties' not a news worthy point? Is the abortion issue not important? http://www.cnn.com/ And finally, why will 'independent media' outlets not point this irony out? -- ____________________________________________________________________ If the law is based on precedence, why is the Constitution not the final precedence since it's the primary authority? The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:58:23AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Why does CNN have nothing on the 9th Circuit ruling related to 'free speech' expression of 'violent acts'? Is 'civil liberties' not a news worthy point? Is the abortion issue not important?
And finally, why will 'independent media' outlets not point this irony out?
Yes, clearly the media is covering up this decision. -Declan Abortion 'Hit List' Protected, Court Says Mar. 29, 2001 07:30 ET www.sltrib.com/03292001/nation_w/83845.htm Anti-Abortion Verdict Overturned Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,282235-412,00.shtml Threats against abortion doctors protected, judges rule Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/37753cdb.328,.html Court: Web site attacking abortion doctors protected Mar. 29, 2001 05:51 ET seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle?zsection_id=268448413&t... Huge Verdict Voided / $107 million judgment against anti-abortion activists dumped Mar. 29, 2001 05:50 ET www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/28/MN62445.DTL Court upholds abortion doctor 'wanted list' Mar. 29, 2001 05:44 ET www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/news_a32c5d7664afd1600051.html Appeals Court Backs Anti-Abortionists' Web Postings Mar. 29, 2001 05:35 ET www.newsbytes.com/news/01/163787.html Appeals Court Overturns $109 Million Verdict Against Anti-Abortion Web Site Mar. 29, 2001 05:05 ET www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article Appeals court rules abortion foes' Web site is protected Mar. 29, 2001 04:41 ET inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2001/03/29/national/ABOR29.htm Fed Appeals Court Sides with Abortion Activists Mar. 28, 2001 23:10 ET www.avn.com/ng/query.cgi?act=detail&in=news&eid=7921 U.S. Court Tosses Major Anti-Abortion Verdict Mar. 28, 2001 21:11 ET dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010328/pl/court_abortion_dc_1.html Anti-Abortion Site Wins Appeal Mar. 28, 2001 20:55 ET www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42708,00.html Court: Abortion Threats Protected Mar. 28, 2001 16:25 ET abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortionappeal010328.html (cached article)
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Yes, clearly the media is covering up this decision.
Not at all. My initial point was that it had media coverage. It was simply a inquisitive observation about the priority setting mechanisms of the COMMERCIAL media and how even 'independent critical' press had economic incentives as well. It further demonstrate the asymmetry in the results with respect to what is 'important' enough to be 'news'. As I've said before in this forum, not all 'cooperative' behaviour is necessarily a 'conspiracy', if enough people act in concert the effect is the same. In many cases it is the quantity and not the intent that is important. Is the 'economic' theory of the 'guiding hand' not the same sort of 'conspiracy' theory? There's more in heaven and earth... ____________________________________________________________________ If the law is based on precedence, why is the Constitution not the final precedence since it's the primary authority? The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
CNN.com may not have included it because the AP article did not show up on all feeds and Reuters ran one very late in the day. You used the CNN.com "example" as a way to launch into conspiracy theorizing, and you were wrong. -Declan On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:43:51AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Yes, clearly the media is covering up this decision.
Not at all. My initial point was that it had media coverage. It was simply a inquisitive observation about the priority setting mechanisms of the COMMERCIAL media and how even 'independent critical' press had economic incentives as well. It further demonstrate the asymmetry in the results with respect to what is 'important' enough to be 'news'.
As I've said before in this forum, not all 'cooperative' behaviour is necessarily a 'conspiracy', if enough people act in concert the effect is the same. In many cases it is the quantity and not the intent that is important. Is the 'economic' theory of the 'guiding hand' not the same sort of 'conspiracy' theory?
There's more in heaven and earth...
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If the law is based on precedence, why is the Constitution not the final precedence since it's the primary authority?
The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
No Shit. Jim, take your damned meds, get off the high horse, and SHADDUP. Nice list of news outlets, Declan, maybe Jim would like to address the obvious conspiratorial implications of Ted Turner insulting xtians by asking if that was dirt on their foreheads, on Ash Wednesday. Harrumph. Reese At 10:46 AM 3/29/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:58:23AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Why does CNN have nothing on the 9th Circuit ruling related to 'free speech' expression of 'violent acts'? Is 'civil liberties' not a news worthy point? Is the abortion issue not important?
And finally, why will 'independent media' outlets not point this irony out?
Yes, clearly the media is covering up this decision.
-Declan
Abortion 'Hit List' Protected, Court Says Mar. 29, 2001 07:30 ET www.sltrib.com/03292001/nation_w/83845.htm
Anti-Abortion Verdict Overturned Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,282235-412,00.shtml
Threats against abortion doctors protected, judges rule Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/37753cdb.328,.html
Court: Web site attacking abortion doctors protected Mar. 29, 2001 05:51 ET seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle ?zsection_id=268448413&t...
Huge Verdict Voided / $107 million judgment against anti-abortion activists dumped Mar. 29, 2001 05:50 ET www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/28/MN6244 5.DTL
Court upholds abortion doctor 'wanted list' Mar. 29, 2001 05:44 ET www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/news_a32c5d7664afd1 600051.html
Appeals Court Backs Anti-Abortionists' Web Postings Mar. 29, 2001 05:35 ET www.newsbytes.com/news/01/163787.html
Appeals Court Overturns $109 Million Verdict Against Anti-Abortion Web Site Mar. 29, 2001 05:05 ET www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article
Appeals court rules abortion foes' Web site is protected Mar. 29, 2001 04:41 ET inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2001/03/29/national/ABOR29.htm
Fed Appeals Court Sides with Abortion Activists Mar. 28, 2001 23:10 ET www.avn.com/ng/query.cgi?act=detail&in=news&eid=7921
U.S. Court Tosses Major Anti-Abortion Verdict Mar. 28, 2001 21:11 ET dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010328/pl/court_abortion_dc_1.html
Anti-Abortion Site Wins Appeal Mar. 28, 2001 20:55 ET www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42708,00.html
Court: Abortion Threats Protected Mar. 28, 2001 16:25 ET abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortionappeal010328.html (cached article)
Right. I spent a year with the CNN.com/AllPolitics folks, and it is beyond inconceivable that they're not covering this decision for political/etc. reasons. Sheesh. -Declan On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:42:21PM +0500, Reese wrote:
No Shit.
Jim, take your damned meds, get off the high horse, and SHADDUP.
Nice list of news outlets, Declan, maybe Jim would like to address the obvious conspiratorial implications of Ted Turner insulting xtians by asking if that was dirt on their foreheads, on Ash Wednesday.
Harrumph.
Reese
At 10:46 AM 3/29/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:58:23AM -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
Why does CNN have nothing on the 9th Circuit ruling related to 'free speech' expression of 'violent acts'? Is 'civil liberties' not a news worthy point? Is the abortion issue not important?
And finally, why will 'independent media' outlets not point this irony out?
Yes, clearly the media is covering up this decision.
-Declan
Abortion 'Hit List' Protected, Court Says Mar. 29, 2001 07:30 ET www.sltrib.com/03292001/nation_w/83845.htm
Anti-Abortion Verdict Overturned Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,282235-412,00.shtml
Threats against abortion doctors protected, judges rule Mar. 29, 2001 05:53 ET www.kcstar.com/item/pages/home.pat,local/37753cdb.328,.html
Court: Web site attacking abortion doctors protected Mar. 29, 2001 05:51 ET seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SeattleTimes.woa/wa/gotoArticle ?zsection_id=268448413&t...
Huge Verdict Voided / $107 million judgment against anti-abortion activists dumped Mar. 29, 2001 05:50 ET www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/28/MN6244 5.DTL
Court upholds abortion doctor 'wanted list' Mar. 29, 2001 05:44 ET www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/news_a32c5d7664afd1 600051.html
Appeals Court Backs Anti-Abortionists' Web Postings Mar. 29, 2001 05:35 ET www.newsbytes.com/news/01/163787.html
Appeals Court Overturns $109 Million Verdict Against Anti-Abortion Web Site Mar. 29, 2001 05:05 ET www.inside.com/jcs/Story?article
Appeals court rules abortion foes' Web site is protected Mar. 29, 2001 04:41 ET inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2001/03/29/national/ABOR29.htm
Fed Appeals Court Sides with Abortion Activists Mar. 28, 2001 23:10 ET www.avn.com/ng/query.cgi?act=detail&in=news&eid=7921
U.S. Court Tosses Major Anti-Abortion Verdict Mar. 28, 2001 21:11 ET dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/nm/20010328/pl/court_abortion_dc_1.html
Anti-Abortion Site Wins Appeal Mar. 28, 2001 20:55 ET www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42708,00.html
Court: Abortion Threats Protected Mar. 28, 2001 16:25 ET abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/abortionappeal010328.html (cached article)
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