Tim May wrote... "Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?" Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard. Likewise with "physically challenged". My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame and embarassment associated with any speech "coloration"...to the point where some people won't even mention skin color when describing another person. -TD
From: Tim May <timcmay@got.net> To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Colored people Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 10:39:16 -0700
On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 08:39 PM, Mac Norton wrote:
There was a weapons charge as well, which will always complicate matters considerably. The unconventional life is a more or less fine thing until it gets perpendicular to the conventional life, usually in the form of law enforcement agents. When that happens, and it almost surely will, what is necessary is a relatively big bunch of money, or a plea bargain.
What happened here is happening to young men (yes, usually men, and as in this case, of color)
Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?
I thought colored people wanted to be called by other names, now they and their whiteliberal supporters are routinely using the silly name "people of color."
(Of course, we live in an age where homosexuals call themselves "queers" and propagate the name--Queer Nation, Queers of Color, Queer Eye for the Pervert Guy, etc.--and yet file lawsuits when others call them queers. And we live in an age where negroes call themselves and other negroes "niggers" and name their minstrel acts "Niggaz with Attitude" but then insist that persons of whiteness call them "NWA" so as not to use the "offensive" "N-word.")
If the coloreds want to be called that, fine with me.
--Tim May
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On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
"Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?"
Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard.
I hear them using this _frequently_. Just about any time I see a fat negro chick on one of the talk shows (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) I can count on her using the phrase "blahblah of color" several times.
Likewise with "physically challenged". My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame and embarassment associated with any speech "coloration"...to the point where some people won't even mention skin color when describing another person.
Again, I hear the cripples using the phrases "physically challenged" _frequently_. It's not enough that cripples always get the best parking places, by law, but they want all "Handicapped" signs replaced with more PC terms. (I may start pulling cores on their tires after seeing so many apparently-fully-mobile persons getting out of their cars and vans with the "Handicapped" placards. Here in California, an entire industry of scammers and willing doctors has emerged to get more and more people declared "Disabled" and thus eligible for the special placards and, of course, taxpayer-paid-for free stuff.) --Tim May
once again, we can count on Tim May to contribute the least productive comment to this thread. On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:01:48PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
"Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?"
Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard.
I hear them using this _frequently_. Just about any time I see a fat negro chick on one of the talk shows (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) I can count on her using the phrase "blahblah of color" several times.
Likewise with "physically challenged". My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame and embarassment associated with any speech "coloration"...to the point where some people won't even mention skin color when describing another person.
Again, I hear the cripples using the phrases "physically challenged" _frequently_.
It's not enough that cripples always get the best parking places, by law, but they want all "Handicapped" signs replaced with more PC terms.
(I may start pulling cores on their tires after seeing so many apparently-fully-mobile persons getting out of their cars and vans with the "Handicapped" placards. Here in California, an entire industry of scammers and willing doctors has emerged to get more and more people declared "Disabled" and thus eligible for the special placards and, of course, taxpayer-paid-for free stuff.)
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On Wednesday 06 August 2003 15:23, Cardenas wrote:
once again, we can count on Tim May to contribute the least productive comment to this thread.
I'm peeved with Tim, too. He's moving in on my turf! Tim wrote:
(I may start pulling cores on their tires after seeing so many apparently-fully-mobile persons getting out of their cars and vans with the "Handicapped" placards.
Nah, kneecap the fake crips instead. Let them deserve their special license plates. -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel "If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!" -- Rep. Henry Waxman
At 01:59 PM 08/06/2003 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
"Where did this "of color" nonsense get started?"
Like a lot of PC terms...from guilt-ridden white liberals. Black folks never use this term, as far as I've ever heard. Likewise with "physically challenged". My black karate Sensei used to periodically laugh at the shame and embarassment associated with any speech "coloration"...to the point where some people won't even mention skin color when describing another person.
"Of color" isn't just blacks - it's also Mexicans and other non-whities. I think some of the whiny liberal politicians I've heard use it have been African-Americans of color (as opposed to white immigrants from South Africa or Rhodesia.)
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 01:58:01PM -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:
"Of color" isn't just blacks - it's also Mexicans and other non-whities. I think some of the whiny liberal politicians I've heard use it have been African-Americans of color (as opposed to white immigrants from South Africa or Rhodesia.)
As a white man, I find the implication that I'm lacking some "color" based on my race to be offensive. I often hear "of color" used (Pacifica radio is quite guilty) as a term of exclusion and division, implying that white people are soulless: they can't jump, can't dance, can't fuck, and can't understand social justice. Frankly, as a racist term.
Or you can flip that arguement on its head and say it's the politially correct hidden racist honkey's way of saying non-white in the usual nasty way, opressing the brothers. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bio-weapons labs, nukular /\|/\ <--*-->:weapons.. Reasons for war on Iraq - GWB 2003-01-28 speech. \/|\/ /|\ :Found to date: 0. Cost of war: $800,000,000,000 USD. \|/ + v + : The look on Sadam's face - priceless! --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Billy Goto wrote:
As a white man, I find the implication that I'm lacking some "color" based on my race to be offensive. I often hear "of color" used (Pacifica radio is quite guilty) as a term of exclusion and division, implying that white people are soulless: they can't jump, can't dance, can't fuck, and can't understand social justice. Frankly, as a racist term.
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