Re: Quarantines may be justified
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 08:10:03AM -0400, Sunder wrote:
While we're at it, there should be a law against noisy kids playing in your neighbor's back yard,
That's quite a bit different than having neighbors who play their stereo so loud you can't hear your own stereo in your house, eh? Which we've experienced quite a bit. Or like when the morons next door had the stereo so loud that the two of us who were working on the roof of my house couldn't even work because we couldn't communicate even when shouting. We don't need a new law for this, the cops seem to be able to ticket them with no problem. Or like the idiots who's car stereo wakes us up at 2am, rattling our windows, even tho it's 20 below out and presumably they have their windows shut as we do ours. We do need new or more effective laws to deal with this however. (rest of nonsense deleted)
Fuck that noise, you intolerant turd. I've a better idea: There should be a law against people that say "there should be a law..." :)
Being assaulted by others smoke, noise, chemical pollutants or whatever is no different than being assualted by their fist. I find it more than a little amusing that most of the so-called "libertarians" I come across haven't the slightest clue that their "freedom" ends at my personal space. One of the main reasons I no longer contribute to the LP and probably won't vote for any more LP candidates, since most libertarians seem to express the attitude of "Fuck everybody else, I can do whatever I want." -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
Then, by extension, I find that when people say "libertarians" in quotes like you said, but not like I said, is no different than having them assult me with their fists. In fact, I find such behavior as direct threats against my life, and instilling terror, so that makes you a terrorist, and possibly an Arab because in my experience, people who put libertarians in menacing quotes like you do were mostly Arabs who hate our freedoms, and that's why they bombed the World Trade Center, and therefore must be harboring WMD's -- and they probably got a huge stash of oil we can grab too - I mean, are torturing their subjects and are anti-freedom, and hate the American Way of Life (Wave Flag Here!) Should we really be able to make up our own definitions and turn things which merely annoy us into crimes? Think about it a bit longer before you reply again. ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_@_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------ On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Being assaulted by others smoke, noise, chemical pollutants or whatever is no different than being assualted by their fist. I find it more than a little amusing that most of the so-called "libertarians" I come across haven't the slightest clue that their "freedom" ends at my personal space. One of the main reasons I no longer contribute to the LP and probably won't vote for any more LP candidates, since most libertarians seem to express the attitude of "Fuck everybody else, I can do whatever I want."
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