On 2012-09-05, at 11:48 PM, grarpamp wrote:

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I think cryptography will depend more and more on steganography [...] and the message is encoded in the inter-packet timing noise. ;)

Moot when you suck up and process everything to extract the crypto. Steg is nothing more than crypto with a pretty wrapper meant to get past the drunk guards, not specialized sieves sifting through your garbage.

Very true, unfortunately, almost all publicly available steganography is worthless. But that's just an opportunity to do better, and there's promising research. Check out: http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2010&context=cis_reports&sei-redir=1 _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE