-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Q1: What cypherpunk remailers exist? A1: 1: nowhere@bsu-cs.bsu.edu 2: hh@cicada.berkeley.edu 3: hh@pmantis.berkeley.edu 4: hh@soda.berkeley.edu 5: 00x@uclink.berkeley.edu 6: cdodhner@indirect.com 7: hal@alumni.caltech.edu 8: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu 9: remailer@rebma.mn.org 10: elee7h5@rosebud.ee.uh.edu 11: hfinney@shell.portal.com 12: remail@tamsun.tamu.edu 13: remail@tamaix.tamu.edu 14: remailer@utter.dis.org 15: remailer@entropy.linet.org 16: remail@extropia.wimsey.com NOTES: #1-#6 no encryption of remailing requests #7-#15 support encrypted remailing requests #16 special - header and message must be encrypted together #9,#14,#15,#16 introduce larger than average delay (not direct connect) #9,#14,#15 running on privately owned machines ====================================================================== Q2: What help is available? A2: Check out the pub/cypherpunks directory at soda.berkeley.edu (128.32.149.19). Instructions on how to use the remailers are in the remailer directory, along with some unix scripts and dos batch files. The public keys for the remailers which support encrypted remailing requests is also available in the same directory. Mail to me (klbarrus@owlnet.rice.edu) for further help and/or questions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLIOvDYOA7OpLWtYzAQGbDQQAvnyZ9XpGUntp483/trZQwyIb74jJEGgR ZpWwPWAlp2j3Vp1WW2JcnvHXIfVtU9r8g22JErwDalgq00NdXIrqIpf5ZllbXfQA XwNoq6hqeECeKtRG/nwc1NeLejFfi1QhA+tjL8yLbyvcZ+bawLbd58NmE7AODUK2 2vuRnYtz+WM= =xnSQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
After being largely off-line for most of the summer, I came back to find that my remailer had been bit-bucketing most encrypted messages, apparently due to PGP 2.3's lack of backward compatibility. (There'd better be a good reason for that, PGP team.) I'll get around to building 2.3 RSN. There will also be a momentary interruption of encryption service when this old Sequent machine gets swapped out from under the Sequent binary... PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail Eli ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
Eli Brandt writes:
After being largely off-line for most of the summer, I came back to find that my remailer had been bit-bucketing most encrypted messages, apparently due to PGP 2.3's lack of backward compatibility. (There'd better be a good reason for that, PGP team.) I'll get around to building 2.3 RSN. There will also be a momentary interruption of encryption service when this old Sequent machine gets swapped out from under the Sequent binary...
Glad to have Eli back! (and we missed you at the Extropaganza last weekend) This underscores one of the persistent problems with remailers: the generally flaky nature! (No insult or criticism intended...the folks who run remailers are to be commended, but the fact is that "multiple hop" remailing routes are are a real gamble these days, what with so many remailers temporarily or permanently disabled or (somehow) not passing messages through.) Karl Barrus's list of functional remailers is a great first step, but we need to somehow establish a better "market system" of remailers (digital postage woud be a boon here) so that the upness or downness of remailers would be more predictable. Like others, I suspect, I have to "ping" the remailers before sending anything, and then hope and pray they aren't taken offline for maintenance (or whatever) between the time I ping them and the time I use them for something important. If Sameer Parekh's "instant remailer" code multiplies the number of remailers by some factor, we will even more urgently need to deal with this issue of remailer reliability. -Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Like others, I suspect, I have to "ping" the remailers before sending anything, and then hope and pray they aren't taken offline for maintenance (or whatever) between the time I ping them and the time I use them for something important.
C'punks, it seems to me that the anonymous pool idea is underutilized by the remailers. I suggest that a remailer variation be developed that posts to an anonymous pool (some appropriate obscure newsgroup) indicating that a message actually was sent from the final hop. The sender can be sure the message made it if they see this posting. If anyone wants to get even more fancy, the final remailer might also post to the pool when the message bounced to the final address back to the remailer. Obviously, without reliability the anonymity is worthless.
C'punks, it seems to me that the anonymous pool idea is underutilized by the remailers. I suggest that a remailer variation be developed that posts to an anonymous pool (some appropriate obscure newsgroup) indicating that a message actually was sent from the final hop. The sender can be sure the message made it if they see this posting. If anyone wants to get even more fancy, the final remailer might also post to the pool when the message bounced to the final address back to the remailer. That definitely looks like a wise idea. Maybe if I can figure it out, among the writing of the install-script I can add this little feature. Which newsgroup? Should someone create an alt.remail? How exactly would it be implemented? I'm
L. Detweiler said: thinking that simply the user would do: :: Request-Remailing-To: sameer@netcom.com Remail-ID: 572374237 And the remailer would post to alt.remail: Message with Remail-ID: 572374237 was remailed. Does that look good? -- Sameer sameer@netcom.com
ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu (L. Detweiler) writes:
C'punks, it seems to me that the anonymous pool idea is underutilized by the remailers. I suggest that a remailer variation be developed that posts to an anonymous pool (some appropriate obscure newsgroup)
No need to change anything. Just add a pool address to the "Request-remailing-to:" line. -- Miron Cuperman <miron@extropia.wimsey.com> | NeXTmail/Mime ok Unix/C++/DSP, consulting/contracting | Public key avail AMIX: MCuperman |
miron@extropia.wimsey.com (Miron Cuperman) writes:
ld231782@longs.lance.colostate.edu (L. Detweiler) writes:
C'punks, it seems to me that the anonymous pool idea is underutilized by the remailers. I suggest that a remailer variation be developed that posts to an anonymous pool (some appropriate obscure newsgroup)
No need to change anything. Just add a pool address to the "Request-remailing-to:" line.
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