We had a discussion of this on Politech with a response (of sorts) from the company: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02162.html http://www.politechbot.com/p-02154.html http://www.politechbot.com/p-02153.html -Declan On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 11:21:05AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
Go back to the page and look again. They link to a correction that they are *not* currently developing implants.
They *are* developing watches and pagers which use a combination of GPS and cellphone tech to track wearers, aimed particularly at the elder care and child markets - sort of a commercial version of the home incarceration monitoring ankle bracelets.
Anyone who has worked with GPS knows that the fastest way to lose signal is to go in a house, or wrap your hand around the antenna. A GPS enabled implant sounds very unlikely.
DA has been hyping this stuff for years (yes, including implants). I'll consider it vaporware until I see some independent evaluations.
Peter Trei
Disclaimer: The above represents my personal opinion only.
---------- From: Sandy Sandfort[SMTP:sandfort@mindspring.com] Reply To: Sandy Sandfort Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 3:21 AM To: Cypherpunks Subject: ANGELIC IMPLANT
C'punks,
Here's an article about a human-implanted device:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23232
It says in part:
"Beginning July 15, Applied Digital Solutions will begin beta testing on humans an implant technology capable of allowing users to emit a homing beacon, have vital bodily functions monitored and confirm identity when making e-commerce transactions....
Digital Angel. sends and receives data and can be continuously tracked by global positioning satellite technology."
Boy, that makes me feel comfortable.
S a n d y
Boy, that makes me feel comfortable.
S a n d y
http://www.ibia.org/newslett.htm Guest Column: The Promise and the Pitfalls of the Biometric ASP Model by Joseph J. Atick, Ph.D. "....The question of who owns the biometric templates needs to be addressed by the BASPs early on. Given the choice, a BASP would naturally want to own and control that data, as ultimately this may be its most valuable asset. However, the desire of the BASPs to own the data will not go unchallenged. Enterprises tend to be wary of losing control and very reluctant to hand over their customers data to a third party. The privacy concerns of the consumer and the associated liability will be considerations that will bolster an enterprises reluctance to relinquish control. One option for a BASP could be to reach the end-user directly and build a database of biometric templates. However, this requires offering a clear value proposition to consumers to entice them to enroll their templates and this may be a costly process." [...] *paranoid thoughts* SHORT TITLE: This title may be cited as the `Biometrics Assistance for Law Enforcement Act'. (At least the biometrics industry is taking the matter seriously: http://www.ibia.org/privacy.htm ) ~Aimee PS: I'm looking for surveillance and biometrics "codes of practice." If your organization has something they might be willing to share that could be relevant.... :) I'm not looking for consent-based "privacy policies."
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