Well, the rason d'etre of 'eJazeera' as I see it is primarily for publically-taken photos and videos to be quickly "gypsied" away from their port of origination (ie, the camera that took them), so that they can eventually make it into a public place on ye old 'Net. The enabling technology as I see it here is802.11b, Wi-Fi. A typical scenario is the case of public demonstrations where the local "authorities" are called in, and where they get, shall we say, a little overzealous. In many such cases (here, New York City, Here, USA, and there--China, etc...), such authorities will attempt to confiscate devices that could have captured the events or captured the perpetrators (and their badge numbers, if applicable) in photo or video. The ultimate aim of eJazeera is to make even the thought of "capturing" such video non-existent, due to the commonplace practices outlined in an eJazeera-type document (or eventually tribal knowledge). Short of that, it is of course in itself desirable for such events to get onto the public 'Net. The methods can be various, but the easiest one was (I think) described by Tim May. Bob and Alice are pre-known to each other. Bob holds a camera, Alice has a Wi-Fi enabled laptop operational in her knapsack. After Bob takes the photos/video, he transfers the images to ALice, who walks off and moves the data to a secure and public site. Other methods seek to eliminate the need for various levels of pre-knowledge between Bob and Alice, and to also stave off the "round up" scenario where a large group is examined and cleansed of all electronica, before data can make it onto the public net. (Less likely in US now, but easily possible elsewhere). ALso to be addressed in the document are (possibly) suggested technologies, down to the actual gadgets and manufacturers, and recommended spacial resolutions vs distances in order to record, say, badge numbers and facial features. Also, powering requirements won't hurt, as well as suggested methods for mitigating power issues. (Hey--this might be way beyond what's needed or desirable, butI still think like an engineer). In a reasonably just world, such images might be used in he short run to prosecute those that overstepped their legal bounds. Inthe long run, the commonplace practice of uploading such images should act as a deterrent to such overzealousness. As it turns out, however, those POWs being transported were photographed in such a way as to not need something like eJazeera (unless the scope as I imagine it is broadened...is it worthwhile to consider the robust creation of image links etc... on the 'Net?). -TD
From: "Major Variola (ret)" <mv@cdc.gov> To: "cypherpunks@lne.com" <cypherpunks@lne.com> Subject: Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera? Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:53:48 -0800
So I'm still playing with the idea of a publically-accessible document
At 08:32 PM 11/9/02 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: that
outlines the strategies, technologies, aims and requirements for somehow uploading images and data to public repositorioes.
Such a document should enumerate the threat model and describe how each threat is resisted, or not.
Specific use-cases can be written: the GI who took the picture; the photo-developer-tech who kept copies; the bored netop who intercepted the pix; an activist who is under <insert type> surveillance.
Anyone interested? And what does it mean (if anything) to do this within the context of the Cypherpunk list?
Dis be da place, at least for talk :-)
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As always, standards are driven by the mass-market and the mass market is already speaking on this one. In 18 months time there will be no difference between mobile phones & cheap digital cameras - all but the cheapest phones will come with built-in cameras. Its almost certain that these devices will have GPS location, and probable that they will have Bluetooth as well. 802.11 less likely because of power consumption - possible that there will be little "base stations" to go Blt <-> WiFi so the Bluetooth becomes a wireless drop cable. Realtime video isn't on the horizon unless someone pulls a lot of bandwidth out of the bag, as ever network speeds grow more slowly than processing power. So effectively everybody will be walking around with the ability to take timestamped photos and transmit them. BrinWorld arrives, at least in public places. No policeman gets to bludgeon a demonstrator unrecorded ever again - expect them to wear visors and helmets increasingly often, and to remove the identifying marks from uniforms (as, or course, riot cops and vigilantes have been doing for decades) The authorities will be able to take down the cell networks - though they won't be able to do that without causing some publicity. They won't be able to confiscate all phones from everyone who is walking the street. Presumably in high-security situation (like interviews with presidents or rides on torture planes) phones can be removed from visitors but they will be rare. Mobile phones are now so ubiquitous that taking them away has come to seem as odd as asking visitors to remove their shoes or to wear face masks. Ken Brown Tyler Durden wrote:
Well, the rason d'etre of 'eJazeera' as I see it is primarily for publically-taken photos and videos to be quickly "gypsied" away from their port of origination (ie, the camera that took them), so that they can eventually make it into a public place on ye old 'Net. The enabling technology as I see it here is802.11b, Wi-Fi. A typical scenario is the case of public demonstrations where the local "authorities" are called in, and where they get, shall we say, a little overzealous. In many such cases (here, New York City, Here, USA, and there--China, etc...), such authorities will attempt to confiscate devices that could have captured the events or captured the perpetrators (and their badge numbers, if applicable) in photo or video.
The ultimate aim of eJazeera is to make even the thought of "capturing" such video non-existent, due to the commonplace practices outlined in an eJazeera-type document (or eventually tribal knowledge). Short of that, it is of course in itself desirable for such events to get onto the public 'Net.
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