17 Cypherpunks subscribers on watch list, Project Lookout
A company I am involved with has been on the distribution list for the FBI's Project Lookout watch list, the list being shared with banks, electronics companies, consulting firms, transportation companies, and 1100 other firms. Cross-indexing with the CP subscriber list, I find 17 names on both lists. We must be vigilant! Civil rights are only for innocents, not guilty persons. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/ML/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns Recent interests: category theory, toposes, algebraic topology
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Tim May wrote:
A company I am involved with has been on the distribution list for the FBI's Project Lookout watch list, the list being shared with banks, electronics companies, consulting firms, transportation companies, and 1100 other firms.
Cross-indexing with the CP subscriber list, I find 17 names on both lists.
We must be vigilant! Civil rights are only for innocents, not guilty persons.
Wow, what a response, at least in private! Four of you have so far contacted me about the Watch List, asking "out of curiousity" if they are on the list or if the list is available online someplace. (One of the four got the message from a forwarding by a list member here. I really wish you, "E.L.," would not forward messages to unrelated lists.) But I need a fifth name. HomeSec promised my own name would be removed if I provided the name of _five_ (5) other suspects. And I need to get off that list by April 1st, which has been designated Roundup Day. --Tim May "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General
Tim Spoofs:
A company I am involved with has been on the distribution list for the FBI's Project Lookout watch list, the list being shared with banks, electronics companies, consulting firms, transportation companies, and 1100 other firms.
Cross-indexing with the CP subscriber list, I find 17 names on both lists.
We must be vigilant! Civil rights are only for innocents, not guilty persons.
This of course is not a true tale, but an incredible simulation to make a point. The real danger, however, lies not in a "watch list," but in the government's desire for a massive computer system which will link every single bit of computer accessible information on every individual for instant access, from credit files, to tax records, to web pages and Usenet posts, to insults hurled at you by various vigilante groups. The earth currently has a population of just slightly over six billion people. This means that a 200 gigabyte drive can store 256 bits of information on every single person on the planet, and you can hold it in the palm of your hand, and use it for any devious purpose you can conceive. Supercomputers are just about to reach, and then surpass, human brain equivalent capacity in both OPS and memory. A few more years, and these supercomputers will be desktops. OPS and bits have simply become so cheap, that everyone on the planet can potentially have instant access to everything everyone else on the planet has ever publicly said or done, grepped and condensed anyway they like, before dealing with anyone. Libertopians are hardly likely to want any legal restrictions on freedom of choice in business or personal dealings, or in the free market trade in publicly accessible information about citizens, so few limits are likely to be placed on the inevitable march of this technology. There are companies that now hire only non-smokers. In the future, this could just as easy become never-smoked, never used drugs, had a perfect attendance record in the Gubmint School, and never criticized the President. Try to board a plane, and get told, "I'm sorry, but Homeland Airlines doesn't carry people who wrote an essay like the one you turned into your 10th grade teacher on such and such 15 years ago." Brinworld on steroids. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
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