-------- Original Message -------- From: "Tyler Durden" <camera_lumina@hotmail.com> To: Nostradumbass@SAFe-mail.net, cypherpunks@minder.net Subject: RE: Power, Propaganda and Conscience in The War On Terror Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:12:00 -0500

As a big, sloppy footnote to this, I'd point out that (these days) anything that does not jibe with the current right-wing party line is now called "Left", even though there's really not much that is particularly left economically (or politically for that matter) in what's said in quotes such as below. It seems odd to me that such a wide variety of political views are all called "left" simply they don't proclaim the US as savior-to-the-world.

Point taken. One reason Iraq has not inflamed most adult and the media is, unlike Vietnam, their kids are not going. Our volunteer army means little politcal consequence to a constant stream of bodybags (no longer ever shown on TV) and walking wounded returning home. The soaring deficit hasn't yet had consequences affecting the average Joe so why care?

Of course, there are those with fairly leftist views in these ranks, but that's not all that relevant. The interesting thing however is that American liberalism is now seen as right-wing (in the pro-US policy sense) by international "leftists" (meaning international dissidents), indicating it's complete and total moral failure.

There is no credible "left' in the U.S., just as there are credible libertarians. The young are so focused on materialsim that they won't hear the door swing shut on the last of their constitutional liberties while searching for the TV remote to select the newest "reality" show. ND