Re: Re: Banned Research and Raids on "Secret Labs"
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
It would be fairly interesting to hear what those health risks are. If they refer to risks to the people doing the experiments, I can't see any beyond what normal parenting would bring. If they instead refer to the babies being born/built, then we're seeing one serious extension of the concept of "unborn babies".
I believe this is an unclear reference to the fact that cloned animals have a significantly shorter life expectancy than their "parent". Of course, I may be [unknowingly] regurgitating the gubmint propaganda, and therefore be totally full of shit - who knows? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 measl@mfn.org wrote:
I believe this is an unclear reference to the fact that cloned animals have a significantly shorter life expectancy than their "parent". Of course, I may be [unknowingly] regurgitating the gubmint propaganda, and therefore be totally full of shit - who knows?
They also tend to be larger than the original as well. Though there has been some progress in understanding why recently. Some other issues might be pointed at in the recent 'jellyfish monkey' experiments. Of the embryos, the only viable one didn't express the jellyfish gene, those that did - died. Take a look at Dougal Dixons 'Man After Man' book for some examples of what scares the hell out of them. A (mediocre) sci-fi book that has the social implications of 'adaptives' wended into the story is, Blueheart Alison Sinclair ISBN 0-06-105820-3 -- ____________________________________________________________________ Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. Ludwig Wittgenstein The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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