Re: Torture Never Stops..
From a distance, this is al-Hatfields and Wal-McCoys, and we(USA) are Sheriff Andy Taylor and Israel is Deputy Barney Fucking Fife, and he keeps shooting himself in the foot every time we try to draw down on that stupid family feud that we now gotta clean up after cuz the SAUDIS (or the REST of the arab contingent) cant TCOB, cuz they dont wanna get their hands dirty just to
Listen, its not a return to fascism. Not by any stretch, so unbunch your panties. unbunch(panties); Some Americans are tired of being stepped on. Me in particular. Its way different than the inferrence you infer. I am sure that we agree on the same stuff, we just dont agree on how to get there. I would love to meet in the middle someplace, as long as my beloved fellow unblamed citizens remain free and unharmed in the process. If a foreign guy ends up in a cell someplace because of some questionable activities, like LYING about knowing one of these terror mongers, LYING about knowing particular details, like having screwy immigration documents.... that shit adds up. It may not MEAN the guy is guilty of something, but dang... its preventive medicine. If a guy happens to get waxed, then a guy happens to get waxed. That happens in prison. It happens to innocent people in prison. It happens to guilty people in prison. It shouldnt happen but it does. Deal somehow with it. Anyways, I dont think this will effect mainstream Americans and the odd cypherpunk thrown in among them. Unless that cpunk happens to be Middle Eastern, and guilty of something previously determined to be suspect. But in the long run will we, considering ourselves Freedom Advocates (believe it or not, I consider myself one), hang ourselves with the collective rope we inadvertently meant to provide to our ropers? My position: I am not willing to give up ANYTHING for my freedom... But then again, I dont have screwy immigration documents that would cause anyone to want to usurp my individual freedoms. I will not give up encryption, or privacy. Ya know its weird, because I hear the Freedom folks say: "Oh yea, thats what -they- always say to you, 'if you have not done anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about'" and now I feel thats not far from the truth, in a strange zenexistential way. Someone tell me why thats a bad statement. I mean, if I HAVE done something wrong, I should be afraid, right? Heres the message we should try to send with our words and our actions: Dont fuck up and try to kill Americans. Because we will fuck you in your ass with a greased lightning tomahawk missile that will gut you and your camel, and the 5 wives you both rode in on... along with those 15 little terrorists a year you keep pumping out, in your own words. By the way, forget about sex for fun with those broads... apparently there is a mandate to 'copulate to populate, not just to fornicate'. SNAP, after lookin at some of 'dat shit, I would rather masturbate. No wonder they wear veils, dey breath must stank to High Heaven. Unfortunately, the civilized world is counting on us to hold shit together for financial stability. So we have to catch up the guys who have sorta fallen behind and made a mess of things for us in a way. Smacks of New World Order, dont it? I dont like it either, but hey... protect their status quo, tally ho, lets get the Americans to do it. Come on, say it... say what you feeeel man :) Dont blame the 'extremist right' of America for this clamping down on our beloved freedoms. now... Are you still free? Can you say what you want in this political climate? Could you ever? Does it matter? Are your papers in order?
One of the many instantiations of Nomen Nescio (whose name is Legion) wrote: [...]
Anyways, I dont think this will effect mainstream Americans and the odd cypherpunk thrown in among them. Unless that cpunk happens to be Middle Eastern, and guilty of something previously determined to be suspect.
You probably have no idea how much this makes my flesh creep
But in the long run will we, considering ourselves Freedom Advocates (believe it or not, I consider myself one),
Oh, I believe it. You do consider yourself one. You are sadly deluded though, and not only about the difference between "affect" and "effect". [...]
I am not willing to give up ANYTHING for my freedom... But then again, I dont have screwy immigration documents that would cause anyone to want to usurp my individual freedoms.
This is a troll, right?
I will not give up encryption, or privacy.
<splutter!> Ken Brown
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