http://www.business-humanrights.org/China.htm the internet great wall of china,gulag to rival the US,state murders,Tibet,etc,etc,etc...measl your worse than jamesd,you might get a spotters fee,though. I trust your aware of repression in china,nortels contribution and assassination politics.This is re.http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/ non-political my ass.