Delta airlines doesn't allow sick person to carry their meds
Delta for Kicking Him off Flight Because He Was Carrying the Drug The Associated Press Published: Dec 6, 2001 FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) - A man who legally uses marijuana for medicinal purposes is suing Delta Air Lines for kicking him off a plane because he was carrying the drug. Irvin Rosenfeld, a stockbroker from Boca Raton, filed suit Wednesday in federal court, claiming the airline violated federal protections for people with disabilities. Rosenfeld, 48, suffers from a rare and painful bone disease and finds relief in smoking marijuana, which is prescribed by a doctor and grown for the government. Every day, he smokes up to 12 marijuana cigarettes to fight tumors. In March, he was kept from boarding a Delta flight from Fort Lauderdale to Washington, D.C., where he was to attend a U.S. Supreme Court session on possible expansion of medicinal marijuana use. Officials told him he had to leave the marijuana behind or get written permission from every state he was flying over. Rosenfeld's attorney, Christopher Sharp, said refusing to seat his client on the airliner was like kicking a diabetic off the flight for carrying hypodermic needles and insulin. "We're not putting any price tag on this, but Delta's exposure in this is considerable," Sharp said. Rosenfeld is one of a handful of people in the country receiving marijuana from the federal government because of unusual diseases. He has smoked government-provided marijuana for nearly 30 years and says without the drug, his condition would become so painful that he could not walk and could hemorrhage. Under the federal Air Carriers Access Act of 1986, Delta had to specify in writing why Rosenfeld could not board the airplane and why he was thought to be a threat to the safety of those on board, Sharp said. The airline did not do that, he said. A Delta spokeswoman said she was unaware that any Americans were permitted to smoke marijuana. "Under federal law, marijuana is an illegal drug, and I'm not aware of any medical use exception of the nature he claims or of any private citizen having a right to possess it in the United States," Katie Connell said. Rosenfeld said that when Delta turned him away, he had to find a flight on another airline and did not get to Washington until the following afternoon. http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA3X79RWUC.html
Has anyone here smoked any federally grown grass? How does it compare to stuff you can buy on the street? The idea of getting approval from all states he flew over (below) is clearly absurd. But insisting on carrying smoking materials when smoking is prohibited is also absurd -- it doesn't say if he was keeping it on his person or trying to put it in checked baggage, but it seems unlikely he would have had any problem if it was checked. -- Greg On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:21:22AM -0800, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote:
Delta for Kicking Him off Flight Because He Was Carrying the Drug The Associated Press Published: Dec 6, 2001 FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) - A man who legally uses marijuana for medicinal purposes is suing Delta Air Lines for kicking him off a plane because he was carrying the drug.
Irvin Rosenfeld, a stockbroker from Boca Raton, filed suit Wednesday in federal court, claiming the airline violated federal protections for people with disabilities.
Rosenfeld, 48, suffers from a rare and painful bone disease and finds relief in smoking marijuana, which is prescribed by a doctor and grown for the government. Every day, he smokes up to 12 marijuana cigarettes to fight tumors. ...
Yes, but every travel magazine, travel agent, and even the airlines tell you not to put medications you rely on in your checked luggage, for fear of losing them, or losing short-term access to them. It's not like it would be easy (legally anyway) to refill that prescription while on the road ... -p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Newby" <gbnewby@ils.unc.edu> To: <cypherpunks@lne.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Delta airlines doesn't allow sick person to carry their meds
Has anyone here smoked any federally grown grass? How does it compare to stuff you can buy on the street?
The idea of getting approval from all states he flew over (below) is clearly absurd. But insisting on carrying smoking materials when smoking is prohibited is also absurd -- it doesn't say if he was keeping it on his person or trying to put it in checked baggage, but it seems unlikely he would have had any problem if it was checked.
-- Greg
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At 11:31 AM 12/6/01 -0500, Greg Newby wrote:
But insisting on carrying smoking materials when smoking is prohibited is also absurd -- it doesn't say if he was keeping it on his person or trying to put it in checked baggage, but it seems unlikely he would have had any problem if it was checked.
Just for the record you are still allowed to carry on a plane personal smoking items, eg., a butane lighter. You can't use them of course, on US flights, but there is no prohibition. [A camping tank of butane fuel is a no-no] I don't see how plant matter can be used as a weapon unless the stems are waaay too big :-)
On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 10:29:40AM -0800, David Honig wrote:
At 11:31 AM 12/6/01 -0500, Greg Newby wrote:
But insisting on carrying smoking materials when smoking is prohibited is also absurd -- it doesn't say if he was keeping it on his person or trying to put it in checked baggage, but it seems unlikely he would have had any problem if it was checked.
Just for the record you are still allowed to carry on a plane personal smoking items, eg., a butane lighter. You can't use them of course, on US flights, but there is no prohibition. [A camping tank of butane fuel is a no-no]
Of course! BTW, this doesn't mean you can refill your zippo. Every year or so we hear about a plane that made an emergency landing or arrested a passenger for bringing lighter fluid (in a can) on board and refilling their lighter en route. Most of the airline magazines and other places that list prohibited substances are pretty explicit about lighter fluid being banned (yes, it's OK if it's inside a disposable lighter).
I don't see how plant matter can be used as a weapon unless the stems are waaay too big :-)
Ever seen a baseball bat :-) ? But smokable plant matter seems innocuous enough. Next thing, you won't be able to wear that hemp tie or shirt! -- Greg
At 01:45 PM 12/6/01 -0500, Greg Newby wrote:
BTW, this doesn't mean you can refill your zippo. Every year or so we hear about a plane that made an emergency landing or arrested a passenger for bringing lighter fluid (in a can) on board and refilling their lighter en route.
My favorite story was the LA gangster who freaked over the fact that he was carrying PCP in baby bottles so he poured them on the seat. He was arrested and the seat pads replaced. He might have been sampling the wares, one suspects. Happened inside the last year, departing from LAX.
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