Re: "Copying"...what does that mean?
At 11:30 PM 11/21/05 -0600, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
This reminds me of something else: to a computer, playing is simply a form of copying, the output is simply a video card and/or sound card. Isn't this is, in fact, what makes computers so powerful, that they simply obey instructions without asking questions? Isn't this why every
attempt to block "unauthorized" copying has failed in the end, because the reality is that if it can be played, it can be copied, because playing *is* copying from the point of view of the computer programs?
The most hilarious thing is when a web site "prohibits" copying, even though to view it, you've copied it to your disk. More hilarious is when javascript is used to prevent saving images. Even if you get the OS to obey, there are always cheap cameras. An older videocam can be used to copy a movie off your screen (like a first gen cassette) even if all the video D/As are 0wned by the MPAA and forced to have DRM. (Don't think it can happen? Look at CALEA & Skype, etc.)
Major Variola (ret) wrote:
More hilarious is when javascript is used to prevent saving images. Even if you get the OS to obey, there are always cheap cameras. An older videocam can be used to copy a movie off your screen (like a first gen cassette) even if all the video D/As are 0wned by the MPAA and forced to have DRM. (Don't think it can happen? Look at CALEA & Skype, etc.) Aren't the majority of 0-day "copies" of just released movies camcorder recordings from inside a cinema?
On 2005-11-26T00:41:54+0000, Dave Howe wrote:
Major Variola (ret) wrote:
More hilarious is when javascript is used to prevent saving images. Even if you get the OS to obey, there are always cheap cameras. An older videocam can be used to copy a movie off your screen (like a first gen cassette) even if all the video D/As are 0wned by the MPAA and forced to have DRM. (Don't think it can happen? Look at CALEA & Skype, etc.) Aren't the majority of 0-day "copies" of just released movies camcorder recordings from inside a cinema?
Yes, and 3-7 day "copies" of popular movies are done on telecine machines. Basically, the groups find a friendly movie theater worker, and they take in a telecine machine after hours and have some one-on-one time with the film reels. Telecines copies are quite good. Real D/D copies don't come out until closer to the dvd release date, when the first studio-internal dvds are made.. usually months after release. Sometimes the studios make early screener dvds for movies, generally low-budget limited-release movies, and generally toward the end of the year, the objective (I think) being a shot at the oscars. -- The six phases of a project: I. Enthusiasm. IV. Search for the Guilty. II. Disillusionment. V. Punishment of the Innocent. III. Panic. VI. Praise & Honor for the Nonparticipants.
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