-- On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote:
As an exercise, try thinking of ways you could use TCPA to promote "good guy" applications. What could you do in a P2P network if you could trust that all participants were running approved software? And if you
I can only see one application for voluntary TCPA, and that is the application it was designed to perform: Make it possible run software or content which is encrypted so that it will only run on one computer for one time period. All the other proposed uses, both good and evil, seem improbably cumbersome, or easier to do in some other fashion. There are quite a few extremely evil uses it would be good for, but they would only be feasible if enforced by legislation -- otherwise people would turn the chip off, or tear it out. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Hzs0OpVc+bwQiFEZnMNE2zMLAXiYjMNrOWpH9WIb 2vvlvOjPeQH/ua0E9NnfeVaLvRGnxGuIvKZGcMZdN
On Saturday, August 3, 2002, at 09:10 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
-- On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote:
As an exercise, try thinking of ways you could use TCPA to promote "good guy" applications. What could you do in a P2P network if you could trust that all participants were running approved software? And if you
I can only see one application for voluntary TCPA, and that is the application it was designed to perform: Make it possible run software or content which is encrypted so that it will only run on one computer for one time period.
All the other proposed uses, both good and evil, seem improbably cumbersome, or easier to do in some other fashion. There are quite a few extremely evil uses it would be good for, but they would only be feasible if enforced by legislation -- otherwise people would turn the chip off, or tear it out.
"The VSPA (Video Surveillance Protection Architecture) is a completely voluntary arrangement whereby video cameras must be installed by 2003 in all new and remodeled homes, apartments, places of business, libraries, and other such places. These cameras and microphones can be used voluntarily by parents and other concerned persons to monitor children, pets, and domestic workers. Under the VSPA, the video feed will be sent to a centralized location where homeowners and parents may then access the feed, strictly voluntarily. "While installation of VSPA will be mandated by law in all new and remodeled homes, the use of VSPA features is strictly on an opt-in basis, except as authorized by law (*). "* Note that VSPA features may be accessed by court order, by presidential emergency order, by authorization of an employee of the Justice, Defense, Interior, or HomeSec departments who is above the grade level GS-7. During periods of Domestic Emergency, the President or the HomeSec Commissar may enable the VSPA on a regional or state or national basis. Additionally, Child Protective Services, the Environmental Protection Agency, and other selected agencies may be granted access, all subject to strict oversight by government officials. "Remember, VSPA is a completely voluntary system. The installation of the VSPA cameras and microphones will assist us all. The legitimate needs of law enforcement will be subject to careful oversight. "Best of all, a substantial tax credit will be granted to those who voluntarily install the VSPA system prior to the mandatory phase-in time. To pay for the voluntary VSPA system, taxes will be raised for those who fail to volunteer." --Tim May "As my father told me long ago, the objective is not to convince someone with your arguments but to provide the arguments with which he later convinces himself." -- David Friedman
At 9:10 AM -0700 on 8/3/02, James A. Donald wrote:
I can only see one application for voluntary TCPA, and that is the application it was designed to perform: Make it possible run software or content which is encrypted so that it will only run on one computer for one time period.
Otherwise known as "book-entry to the eyeball", and the de-facto wet dream of WAVEoids since time-immemorial, or at least 1989 or so. It's a shame that these people haven't heard of Goedel or Heisenberg. Or Coase, for that matter. :-). Cheers, RAH Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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James A. Donald
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R. A. Hettinga
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Tim May