Possession of stolen books - an example
Blueheart Alison Sinclair Harper Science Fiction ISBN 0-06-105820-3 $6.50 US I quote from the 'fly' (or whatever it's called), the facing page to the first page of chapter 1. "If you purchased this book without a cover, you should be aware that this book is stolen property." They've been doing this for at least 20 years. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
At 12:47 PM -0600 1/10/01, Jim Choate wrote:
Blueheart Alison Sinclair Harper Science Fiction ISBN 0-06-105820-3 $6.50 US
I quote from the 'fly' (or whatever it's called), the facing page to the first page of chapter 1.
"If you purchased this book without a cover, you should be aware that this book is stolen property."
They've been doing this for at least 20 years.
And incorrectly. Calling something stolen doesn't make it so. I could tear the cover off a book I own and then sell it to Alice. Publishers resort to FUD the same way TLAs do. Be sure to notify my local Sheriff's Office, in Santa Cruz County, that I am committing a crime. Nitwit. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
Are you a bookseller taking the book on concession? Are you listing it as 'destroyed' and then taking it to a local bookstore to sell it? No? Didn't think so. Did the book have a cover when you bought it? Your comparison is moot, you are ignoring who actually owns the property, and arguing that because on one non-similar case one can do one thing then by extension that same freedom of action extends to all others. That's nitwit Tim. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote:
At 12:47 PM -0600 1/10/01, Jim Choate wrote:
Blueheart Alison Sinclair Harper Science Fiction ISBN 0-06-105820-3 $6.50 US
I quote from the 'fly' (or whatever it's called), the facing page to the first page of chapter 1.
"If you purchased this book without a cover, you should be aware that this book is stolen property."
They've been doing this for at least 20 years.
And incorrectly. Calling something stolen doesn't make it so. I could tear the cover off a book I own and then sell it to Alice.
Publishers resort to FUD the same way TLAs do.
Be sure to notify my local Sheriff's Office, in Santa Cruz County, that I am committing a crime.
Nitwit.
--Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay@got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: b.1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
"If you purchased this book without a cover, you should be aware that this book is stolen property."
They've been doing this for at least 20 years.
The reason for this is that if the cover is ripped off the book in that manner, it is usually one that has been "stripped". That is when a paperback is reported as "not sold" and instead of sending the books back, they just send the front covers for a refund. (Books are heavy and they figure it is not worth the shipping.) The books are then supposed to be destroyed. Some dealers will then sell the books after they have been refunded in this manner. (Gotta get that extra profit!) That is why that warning is there. It is because the books have probably already been claimed as destroyed to the publisher and a refund issued. alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
Alan Olsen wrote:
The reason for this is that if the cover is ripped off the book in that manner, it is usually one that has been "stripped". That is when a paperback is reported as "not sold" and instead of sending the books back, they just send the front covers for a refund.
In most cases they are not destroyed, rather the usual SOP is to chuck them in a box , and chuck the box into a dumpster. Whereupon dumpster divers, of course, will often grab them and sell them to used bookstores.
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, madmullah wrote:
Whereupon dumpster divers, of course, will often grab them and sell them to used bookstores.
Who aren't supposed to be buying them. ____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
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