Re: General Ashcroft make his move
Jimminy Critic wrote: # # Where is that boundary condition in the amendment? Saying "felons # may not own firearms" is certainly an infringment. Rights don't # come from the state after all (see 1st two para's of the DoI). # # Amendment II # # A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of # a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, # shall not be infringed. Gee, how pure and simple. What is your position on the First Amendment and: o "obscenity" o child pornography o generated non-child child pornography
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 George@Orwellian.Org wrote:
Gee, how pure and simple.
Well see...
What is your position on the First Amendment and:
o "obscenity"
What is 'obscene'?
o child pornography
What is 'pornography'? As to the 'child' part of that, any interaction with a minor in any way without parental consent should be grounds for immediate hanging (just kiddin').
o generated non-child child pornography
What two or more consenting adults do is between them and nobody else. Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Amendment IX The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Amendment X The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Now a couple of questions for you... Where in the Constitution does it say the fed's are supposed to regulate pornography or sex? Where in the Constitution does it draw a distinction with regard to 'the people' between adults and minors? The 10'th Amendment clearly makes these issues STATE issues, not federal ones. Simply because a bunch of religious fascist/socialist wanna do it don't make it right. See first two para's of the DoI. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 George@Orwellian.Org wrote:
What is your position on the First Amendment and: [...]
o child pornography
What's wrong with kiddyporn? It's just bits. They don't hurt you. The problem is child abuse, *if* that happened when the porn produced. Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:decoy@iki.fi, gsm: +358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
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