Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:41:03 CST From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie) To: Postmaster@ultrix.ramapo.edu Subject: Unacceptable behaviour by ghabrech Cc: root@ultrix.ramapo.edu, ghabrech@ultrix.ramapo.edu, cypherpunks@toad.com

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From one of the very popular mailing lists I received the following posting [shortened even more] Think about this scenario for a moment: dclunie sends mail to the system adiministrator of an institution complaining of the mail sent by a

Forgive me if I appear slow over this but I don't see any problem with Davids response.. Mailbombing a mailing list like cypherpunks with 80K of dross is not acceptable behaviour (whether it was through ignorance or malice) and in those circumstances contacting the site postmaster seems a reasonable thing to do. I do agree with another post who suggested that the admin side of the list does need to be tightened up so that future incidents like this do not occur. However we are in danger of blowing this up out of all proportion. Stephen -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Stephen Dunne DoD#767 sdun@isma.demon.co.uk | |International Securities Market Association I speak for me,thats all| |Voice (+44) 71-538-5656 Fax (+44) 71-538-4902 PGP key available| |We are not affiliated to any other Demon.Co.Uk site. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------- Note follows ----------------------------- Message-Id: <9303120919.AA11896@netcom.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 01:24:48 -0800 To: cypherpunks@toad.com From: Michael Brennan <mbrennan@netcom.com> Subject: Unacceptable slander by dclunie particular user. The system administrator confronts the user, who then explains the situation. He explains that he has sent numerous requests to be unsubscribed from the list, but they continue to send large volumes of mail. Out of frustration, he sends an 80K file to the list hoping it will get someone's attention. The mail continues, and several members of the list makes threats of "dirty tricks" and "mail bombs" against him. Now one of the "cypherpunks" is sending libelous mail to the system administrator. The system administrator now understands the situation; an educational institution on the net is made aware of a rapidly developing campaign of harrassment and vandalism by the cypherpunks. So what happens now? Are the cypherpunks winning? Are you people blind to what you are doing? What fools!!! ----- Michael Brennan - mbrennan@netcom.com