Re: Email tapping by ISPs, forwarder addresses, and crypto proxies
At 07:56 AM 7/19/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
You don't know about tape robots, or offline indexing, eh?
None of which qualify here - remember, the discussion was based upon a "quiet" implementation.
The thread was about wiretapping. My point was that you can record at linespeed an analyze at leisure. Nothing more, nothing less.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 08:55:36PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
The thread was about wiretapping. My point was that you can record at linespeed an analyze at leisure. Nothing more, nothing less.
This makes no sense. Most of the traffic out there is garbage, and it is ridiculously expensive to record all of it. It is not at all difficult to analyze it, and extract useful info: all plain text information, which endpoints use which crypto, VoIP streams, etc. We *do* remember the Pakistan-UK email on wire intercept, don't we? How else is this supposed to have happened by means other than a total tap? You better believe they're doing it -- but they capture only traffic that contains useful information. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]
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