Robb London is a polite person, so is Jeff Gordon. It's what they do after you get comfortable with them that's not so polite. But it's always done in precise compliance with the law, even if that means kissing your ass goodbye. Gentlemen with guns are sweethearts if you obey them. I guess I missed Declan's letter to Robb, and I don't see it in the Inet archives. Anybody get a copy of it? Those cc:s to cpunks in Robb's message surely came from Declan's letter, no? Or is Robb baiting hooks? Robb never sent me an ass-kissing-goodbye letter like Declan's, but sent me only fuck-you subpoenas, which may mean the same as Declan's, if Declan believes what Robb wrote about only wanting this and that, so sorry to inconvenience you. Robb has a neat way of dropping an unexpected question on you just after warming you up with spit. Sure, now, Declan does that pretty well himself. Bet you a nickle Declan gets a chance to name interviewees besides Bell, in response to a casual probe from Rob, "oh, by the way, Mr. McCullagh, what did Bell tell you about Alice and Bob and Charlie?" The only good answer to the unexpected, as DF wrote years ago is "I want a lawyer." Even if you have one, get another, and not the one after your sweet ass with apologetic emails.

I wonder if John Young is a journalist, and needs to have his subponea approved by John Ashcroft too...

I don't know John Young, but I've visited Cryptome and seen his postings here. I'd say he's a journalist by any reasonable standard. Doubt the DoJ agrees, though. -- Daniel ======================================================= The Law Office of Daniel J. Boone 326 Fourth Avenue, Suite B Juneau, Alaska 99801 (907) 723-9902 djb@gci.net ======================================================= "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe when the legislature is in session." -- Judge Gideon Tucker =======================================================

He has a digital 'press' in cryptome.org just like ssz.com or pgp.net. Every one of these sites should be accorded the protection of the Constitution without question. ____________________________________________________________________ Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. Locke The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 10 Mar 2001, David Honig wrote:

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I wonder if John Young is a journalist, and needs to have his subponea approved by John Ashcroft too...

I don't know John Young, but I've visited Cryptome and seen his postings here. I'd say he's a journalist by any reasonable standard. Doubt the DoJ agrees, though.

-- Daniel

He's a journalist when he writes (original, copyrighted content) and an editor when he collects, and a publisher when you browse.

..... We are all reporters, we are all book sellers. We are all first class objects. --Tim May

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A consequence of issuing subpoenas to news folks is to inhibit their reporting on the trial, for witnesses are excluded from the proceedings, at least before their testimony -- I'm not sure about exclusion after testimony. No doubt a rich publisher will assign a second reporter to cover the trial. Which is what superrich Cryptome will do, as well as get daily transcripts, hopefully in digital form for immediate publication -- even to be laptopped by those excluded from the trial. Unless this public announcement precludes this 1A plot. If so, then we'll go to backups 1, 2, 3 and so on. Anybody know who the second subpoenaed reporter is? Jeff answered the inquiry about my GJ transcript: "don't get your hopes up. I've never heard of that happening, instead only portions of GJ testimony are available if introduced at the trial." That's not what Robb told me before testifying, but then he's a mouther rather than a shooter like Jeff. Anybody who thinks questions posed during testimony will be limited to what was assured beforehand has got to be from Pluto. Same credulity for "off the record." The feds will tell you anything to get your cooperation. And leave to your imagination and planted news stories what will happen if you don't. Jim Bell is a poster boy for that, and I continue to believe that's his role, probably with his help, coerced or willing. This is not to say that journalists, any seducer, are so different. That's the problem with privilege and pulling rank -- they're a corrupting, contemptous divide of us-winners/you-losers. And do seducers scream when their scams are exposed. Robb wants the attention poster boy Declan can give his vendetta, the gov's intention to show who runs cyber-space and -spacers.