Re: Cypherpunks declared to be a terrorist organization?
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 05:59:57PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Tim May wrote:
Given the new Anti-Terrorism laws the Congressvermin are racing to pass, there's a chance the Cypherpunks list/group will be placed on the list of terror organizations, with any support for (such as running nodes) declared to be illegally supporting an illegal organization.
Are any cypherpunks nodes being operated outside of U.S.?
Not that I know of. Want to run one? It doesn't take much bandwidth, just a host that's up most of the time. You or anyone else who wants to set up a node is welcome to use some or all of the majordomo mods I made to filter spam.
Can subscription to an international mailing lists be outlawed?
Sure. It might be difficult to pass such a law in the US, and completely unconstitutional, but that doesn't always stop them. It's more likely that the cypherpunks list would be declared a "terrorist organization" under sealed FISA orders, and the various "ringleaders" rounded up in the middle of the night. But I don't think even that is likely; it's easier and more productive to ignore the list and target the rare list member who does something chargeable in real life.. Eric
Eric Murray wrote:
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 05:59:57PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
Can subscription to an international mailing lists be outlawed?
Sure. It might be difficult to pass such a law in the US, and completely unconstitutional, but that doesn't always stop them.
It's more likely that the cypherpunks list would be declared a "terrorist organization" under sealed FISA orders, and the various "ringleaders" rounded up in the middle of the night.
But I don't think even that is likely; it's easier and more productive to ignore the list and target the rare list member who does something chargeable in real life..
Easier and more productive, but it doesn't make for big flashy headlines. "Two Dozen Crypto Munitions Exporters Arrested in Midnight Raids; Ties to Money Laundering, Terrorists, Child Pornographers" would get the AG's name in the papers and distract Congress's attention from looking into just what BXA is doing. (Neal Knox noticed that criminal shooting sprees seem to take place before Congressional votes on gun restrictions. Maybe coincidence, maybe not. I'm extrapolating to a different department.) SRF -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel 617-670-3793 "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly while bad people will find a way around the laws." -- Plato
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