Re: patriotism considered evil
-- On 30 Apr 2003 at 7:17, Adam Back wrote:
I'm not American. I'm dual-national British/Swiss, I've lived in Britain, Scotland, Canada and now the US. But I have not noticed anyone in Britain, or British press discussing "un-British" behavior, or putting down anyone attempting to ask questions as "un-patriotic". (Ditto for the other countries). Press coverage of Iraq is varyingly biased in those countries (ridiculously so in the US, somewhat in the UK due to their involvement).
I do not think so: Observe CNN whitewashing Saddam. Observe NBC imagining "unexpectedly strong Iraqi resistance", predicting that the battle of Baghdad would resemble the siege of Stalingrad, and observe its conspicuous failure to notice that the US was winning decisively in the cities. If you watched NBC, then when the statue fell, you would say "Hey, what happened!!" Ann coulter has been having a great time parodying the foolish pinkos that dominate the news media. www.anncoulter.com : : Liberals Meet Unexpected Resistance April 30, 2003 : : : : THOUGH MANY had anticipated a cakewalk for the media : : in undermining the war on terrorism, instead : : liberals are caught in a quagmire of good news about : : the war. Predictions that liberals would have an : : easy time embarrassing President Bush have met : : unexpected resistance. They're still looking for the : : bad news they said was there. Experts believe the : : media's quagmire results from severely reduced : : troops. The left's current force is less than half : : the size of the coalition media that undermined the : : Vietnam War. This is a melange of infamous claims issued by the New York Times, NBC, and CNN --- "US ofrces meet unexpected resistance" She has been doing much the same in every column since the statue fell. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG Mz00mZ5gWkjnT0B8TL9Q/ovyfF/rh8UgopMSl51V 4hokukmt8BDA5AtehHVy0Gm+1fzARkRhDtq8q9MRR
At 01:15 AM 5/2/03, you wrote:
I do not think so: Observe CNN whitewashing Saddam. Observe NBC imagining "unexpectedly strong Iraqi resistance", predicting that the battle of Baghdad would resemble the siege of Stalingrad, and observe its conspicuous failure to notice that the US was winning decisively in the cities. If you watched NBC, then when the statue fell, you would say "Hey, what happened!!"
Ann coulter has been having a great time parodying the foolish pinkos that dominate the news media.
The bias of the US news media is most clearly demonstrated by the general absence of questions or discussion along the lines of "For months the US sought a resolution from the UN authorizing an attack to 'disarm Saddam of his weapons of mass destruction'. Now where are the weapons of mass destruction? Has the US done the equivalent of shooting a man holding his ID instead of a gun, but on a scale of tens of thousands? Wasn't WMD simply a pretext for starting a war of aggression that had been long planed and desired?"
-- On 2 May 2003 at 10:18, Ed Stone wrote:
The bias of the US news media is most clearly demonstrated by the general absence of questions or discussion along the lines of "For months the US sought a resolution from the UN authorizing an attack to 'disarm Saddam of his weapons of mass destruction'.'
The press is not biased when it fails to report an issue as much as you would desire. The press is biased when their political desires get in the way of reality, as in their reporting of "unexpectedly strong Iraqi resistance" and the inability of large sections of the press to notice that the Iraqis were losing in the cities, as well as the desert. On MSNBC there were a huge number of stories predicting a Stalingrad like battle for Baghdad, and then when the US started taking cities with very low casualties, a viewer of NBC would have had great difficulty in discovering the fact. NBC did not fail to give some stories the emphasis that some people thought they should have. Instead their stories were wrong. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG hwkjthD6v+MskdmauaUDBV+CvO+jdPn9Jj9Svc3c 4/UUeNUN6F3Kre+uv43Zm16jP7DCdPh8fB4Kf7/fJ
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