Re: Digicash Patents
At 10:19 PM 07/31/2003 -0500, Mac Norton wrote:
I'm not sure that Paypal has met the needs of any enduser yet, so I'd question whether it "succeeded."
Huh? Paypal was wildly successful at meeting the perceived needs of end users. Whether it met the needs of stockholders before EBay bought it is a separate question. It wasn't pretending to be a perfect cypherpunks solution. Paypal gave people who wanted to occasionally sell things on the net a way to receive payments online, quasi-immediately, without going to the major hassle of becoming a registered credit-card-accepting business, and let people who wanted to buy things online send money immediately without sending their credit cards directly to random individuals, and let both sides avoid the delay and bounceability of checks-by-snail, and reduced the likelihood of fraud in the payment process.
-- On 3 Aug 2003 at 0:34, Bill Stewart wrote:
Paypal gave people who wanted to occasionally sell things on the net a way to receive payments online, quasi-immediately, without going to the major hassle of becoming a registered credit-card-accepting business,
There is a big problem in that "quasi" Because paypal payments are reversible, Paypal finds itself very reluctantly in the business of arbitrating disputes, a potentially expensive and unpopular business which it does very badly indeed. The integration with Ebay was intended to reduce this problem, since ebay does rather well at arbitrating disputes, but paypal's arbitration is still universally loathed. If your business model sticks you with performing arbitration, you find yourself up against the credit card companies, the eight hundred pound gorilla of arbitration, who do it well, and more importantly, do it a lot cheaper than you can. This provides a strong argument for making your payment service truly irreversible, that is to say, Chaumian. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG wPTF3iJd+YV5zLY6lEBVNFkcGnmNYeC0BBOiAKnK 4B0UcuuS/khYebiuvTgWDuOOyEiINiAP276pz+oZe
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