Let's get one thing straight. I hate how Gmail does threading. IT SUCKS. Anyone miss that? GMail threading SUCKS. Maybe even their sniffers will catch that. GMail SUCKS is always a winner but I want THREADING in the string. At 10:42 27-11-06, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
At 10:04 AM -0500 11/27/06, Ulex Europae wrote:
No. Galileo advanced a fact and might swatted him for it, that the Earth was the center of the universe has never been a fact. There are other "facts" that simply aren't so despite consensus to the contrary.
Physics causes finance. Finance causes law. Law causes politics. Politics causes religion. Your point is?
Oh, horse shit. Physics predates everything but it the last to be discovered and explored. Law and Religion are inexorably twined. The predecessor of religion, superstition, gives rise to many things. Finance and Politics are after-effects of everything else. You did that one up right -n- proper, inchoate.
A refresher: the EFF is suing AT&T for getting into bed with the NSA and the widespread eavesdropping that has been engaged in. Widespread encryption has been needed for quite some time, it hasn't been particularly wanted because it isn't easy or accessible. Yet.
And that, besides proving that EFF can't do much but sue, proves what, exactly?
Given that their sole enforcement arm is lawsuit, you are inchoate again. It proves that they can bring a lawsuit and on occasion, win. Duh.
Again. You want mixmaster code. Write code. Quit whining.
Again: you demonstrate why that code is not widespread already. Ted wrote code. It still isn't widespread. Why fucking not? See below. --Ulex -- http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/12/unabombers_code.html Schneier on Security A weblog covering security and security technology. December 06, 2006 The Unabomber's Code This is interesting. Ted Kaczynski wrote in code: In a small journal written in code, he documented his thoughts about the crimes he was committing. That code was so difficult, a source says the CIA couldn't crack it -- until someone found the key itself among other documents, and then translated it. Look at the photo. It was a manual, pencil-and-paper cipher. Does anyone know the details of the algorithm?
At 3:44 AM -0500 12/7/06, Ulex Europae wrote:
Oh, horse shit. Physics predates everything but it the last to be discovered and explored. Law and Religion are inexorably twined. The predecessor of religion, superstition, gives rise to many things. Finance and Politics are after-effects of everything else.
There ya go, conflating academic subjects with physical phenomena, again. Physics, physical phenomena, causes ideas, not the other way around.
Again: you demonstrate why that code is not widespread already. Ted wrote code. It still isn't widespread. Why fucking not?
Because the code didn't work. That's why. Syntactically it compiled, semantically, it failed in the "usefulness" step. So. Again. Sue everyone you want. Pass all the laws you want. Send all the people to jail you want. If someone writes code (physics), and it makes enough money (finance), then the laws will change (legislation, politics), and people will change their minds (philosophy, ethics, religion). Physics causes Finance, which causes Philosophy. Got it? Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah@ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
There ya go, conflating academic subjects with physical phenomena, again. Physics, physical phenomena, causes ideas, not the other way around.
Well, if you're taling about physical theory itself, most physicsts wouldn't agree with this statement in public, but in their heart of hearts they believe it. -TD _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
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R.A. Hettinga
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Tyler Durden
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Ulex Europae