Is it a lie to neglect to mention that Adolf Hitler was kind to dogs? Or that Stalin was courageous and did well in school? Or that there were lots of women that Jeffrey Dahmer did not torture, kill, and eat?<<
True,everyone has some good points.even you,measl and timothy"Dahmer"May.
It is certainly true that all sorts of nice people had all sorts of good intentions in Catalonia, but when they attempted to implement those good intentions, they mostly found themselves using the old familiar methods of recently existent socialism,<<
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The popularly elected govt was under attack from a falangist,military coup,Its worth close study from the beginning and to get the clearest picture read widely."Objectivity and liberal scholarship's",a good place to start.Also "homage to Catalonia"by george Orwell.There were some exciting developments and they weren't "implemented"so much as arose spontaneously.The stalinists found themselves using old familiar methods.The libertarian socialists kicked butt. they did not use those methods, socialism did not work. That is the important truth about Catalonia, << Libertarian socialism did work,see Gaston Leval,Bookchin,Paz,Chomsky and even H.Thomas.Stalinism,or authoritarian socialism did not work.The important truth about Catalonia is Libertarian socialism did work and will again,shortly,work. truths, the truths that some people were sincere, the truths that some people had good intentions, are irrelevant. I do mention those truths, briefly. Unlike the sources you prefer I do not go into lengthy spiels describing those wonderful good intentions while ignoring the actual outcome. << I'm not attracted to libertarian socialism by sincere and good intentions.I'm attracted to it because it holds the best hope of maximizing my freedom and limiting violence.The intentions and sincerity of any political movement are secondary concerns.I simply want to know what's in it for me.The close study of what real people do in real revolutionary periods is very revealing.You should try it sometime.Chomsky and Orwell are quite brief and to the point.I trust them on Spain.
James A. Donald:
they mostly found themselves using the old familiar methods of recently existent socialism, and when they did not use those methods, socialism did not work. That is the important truth about Catalonia,
mattd:
Libertarian socialism did work,see Gaston Leval,Bookchin,Paz,Chomsky and even H.Thomas.
Commie liars, except for Thomas, who does not say what you claim he does.
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