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Yes, but the bigger they are the shorter they survive. It's sort of like 'virtual particles'. For a given energy level they can exist for only so long. << Que? Bigger what are? Stable states of anarchy? Lets create a global one and synchronize our watches.Wheres your cite's? I think the goal is to build a society that is long lived and intrudes on the affairs of the individual a minimal amount. In "age of empires?"trad anarchist theory?Situationalism?Cypherpunks

Subject: Re: prisoners dilemma,trapped in a privatised prison hellhole. list?On this list anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism is often said to be the goal-a quote on that from Salon..."No libertarian state, after all, has ever existed in the world. (America, incessantly denounced by libertarians as a Great Satan of regulation, is, ironically but not surprisingly, much closer to being that free state than any other developed nation.) This gives libertarianism a futuristic allure that resonates with high-tech visionaries -- but it also raises suspicions that the whole thing is a pipe dream, a vaporous, almost psychotically elaborate "system" that resembles an elaborate science fiction alternate universe, or that plan labored on by Swift's Lagadan "projector" for extracting sunbeams out of cucumbers. When something has never been attempted, it may be because mankind has not evolved sufficiently -- or it may be because it can't be. (Of the libertarian belief that all social difficulties would vanish if a perfectly free market system could be established, the Burkean conservative Russell Kirk wrote, "This was very like saying that if only the Sermon on the Mount were universally obeyed to the letter, sin would vanish from among men. The trouble is that the Sermon on the Mount will not triumph until the end of all things earthly. There exist reasons for believing that the ideal universal free market is nearly so difficult of attainment.") Libertarianism's cold, Platonic perfectionism arouses suspicions. (Plato's Republic, like the libertarian utopia, is divided hierarchically -- and it's a safe bet that few libertarians believe that when the great Free Market Future dawns they will find themselves shoveling coal in the Race of Iron Steel Mill.) There is something lab-coaty about this philosophy, something that conjures up images of '50s scientists with wire-rimmed glasses and crew cuts: "3:05. We removed all governmental controls. Seventeen subjects died of malnutrition. Three became wealthy. Plague broke out in the southwest quadrant. The experiment continued without further incident." AP? Id like to hear Jim's opinion.Jim Bell that is.I repeat...Possible to have smuggled posts from former list members published? Several > books have been written this way. > Information does want to be free. >