Cryptographic protocols for government?
I've been thinking about the Bell case and what it represents. The case really turns on a central point, I think; an individual's right or lack thereof to do the things for himself that government traditionally does for him. The government normally investigates crooks, ostensibly for the benefit of the citizens. But what happens when a citizen attempts to do the same? Well, we get the sort of thing that's happening in that courtroom. Bell made it pretty personal, evidently, and his idea of what constitutes a "crook" may differ from yours, mine, and (especially) that of the government of the US, and he was evidently bungling the investigation anyway (wasn't able to find whom he was looking for and wound up pestering people who had the same name or lived at the same h ouse...). But seriously, what was he doing? At least in his own mind, he was investigating a crook. And what was AP? (besides being unimplementable and susceptible to all kinds of abuse by anyone with money?) It was an attempt at a cryptographic protocol to regulate the use of force. In effect, it was a protocol intended to replace government. And this brings up some very fundamental points about the distinction between private citizens and agents of a government, especially if you ascribe to the view that all government powers are derived from and ultimately belong to the people. I personally think that, as information becomes more and more available, government becomes less and less necessary. Or maybe the idea should be expressed as "Government is a protocol for collaborative or collective action in the absence of the availability of complete information and the bandwidth to disseminate it. As the information becomes available, the need for this protocol declines." And in a crypto-enabled world, where anyone can say anything anonymously and as publicly as they like, information will be available. (insert caveat re: sturgeon's law) But Bell's behavior brings up other issues. For collaborative or collective action, you can't have one guy haring off with his own definitions of everything and trying to enforce laws nobody else believes exist. So, a question. How could a reasonably peacable and stable society, lacking government-as-we-know-it but rich in automation and cryptographic protocols, deal with crime and criminals? Is there any way to ensure that the actions taken by the group (you may think of it as "laws enforced", but "law" has an odd flavor of meaning in the absence of government-as-we-know-it) actually conform to a consensus of what the people want enforced, without unduly trampling the dissenters nor creating positions of disproportionate power for individuals? How could people doing investigations be compensated and sustained at an appropriate level by the group? Do some information resources need to be restricted to those doing investigations? I have some ideas on how to do similar things for moderating mailing lists, but no solid ideas yet on how to regulate the use of physical force. Bear
In such a world the question of what a crime is would be easy to define, A crime is an act, or in some cases a failure to act, which harms a person, property, or a public trust without prior permission. In any 'crime' in that society there would be a very pissed of body wanting 'justice' or else a dead, rotting one. There would be 'evidence' of crime. Theft, or more properly 'property violations' perhaps, where one persons property was taken, used, or simply trespassed across without permission. However, with that sort of ubiquitous technology I suspect there would be several cameras with sufficient documentation to resolve the issue. GPS receivers that page you if your care exceeds three (3) miles from some specified location. etc. Breaking a 'public trust', I'm still working on. Clearly parallel issues of 'evidence' arise similar to 'theft'. The question, and one I'm not prepared to attempt to answer publicly today, is "Are there any differences? Is there some special class specific character?" As to criminals and how to deal with them... In my mind the majority of 'criminals' aren't trying to 'destroy society', they're trying to live their life and having a hard time of it. While they may have 'initiated a harmful act' they are also a victim, ask any 12 year old kid who shot themselves in the head because the people around her thought they were somehow 'better'. Burglars and such (mainly no person was harmed) I wouldn't put in jail, unless they refused to co-operate or else broke 'the deal'. I'd require them to continue with their lives, get a job, pay a restitution amount (reasonable, not some trumped up bullshit to pay for some feds Porsche payment), and participate in other 'social' acts (eg each Saturday for the next 20 years you will go over to the persons house you broke into and mow their lawn and do yard work at your own expense). Why the hell the people pay for a criminals incarceration is beyond me. I certainly have no desire to pay for the assholes room and board. Anyway... If they got in trouble a second time during that 20 years, then they would have to start all over again. Do it three times and it's off to jail. But not todays jails, probably not like any jails ever. For non-violent and non-likely-to-escape (remember all that ubiquitous technology) prisoners they would be assigned a house, a job, and a routine to fill their week. It should require mandatory educational tracks the prisoner pays for. The pay would be equivalent to a 'outside' job. The prisoner would be required to take care of the house and such at their own expense. Their family should even be allowed to live there as far as that goes. Now, what about violent offenders? In my mind the worth of parole, time of for good behaviour, etc. are nil. If a person commits a violent crime where a person is harmed (but not killed or seriously incapacitated) and the priosoner is not likely to do it again, I suggest something in the neighborhood of a minimum sentence of 20 years. For acts where a person was killed the prisoner should get life. They should be isolated from other prisoners as well. They should still be required to keep a job if they want anything beyond three hots and a cot. Now, what about prisoners who are violent and don't want to co-operate? Treat them just like lifers but only for their sentence. When released, if a subsequent crime is commited and they still don't consent to cooperate then sentence them to life. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you. Fool me three times, shame on me." On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote:
And in a crypto-enabled world, where anyone can say anything anonymously and as publicly as they like, information will be available. (insert caveat re: sturgeon's law)
So, a question. How could a reasonably peacable and stable society, lacking government-as-we-know-it but rich in automation and cryptographic protocols, deal with crime and criminals?
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