8 year old arrested for paper gun, words
Irvington Pupils Face Charges for Playing With Paper Gun. March 22, 2001 IRVINGTON, N.J. (AP) _ Two second-graders playing cops and robbers with a paper gun were charged with making terrorist threats. The boys' parents said the situation should have been resolved in the principal's office, but Police Chief Steven Palamara on Wednesday defended school officials and the district's zero-tolerance policy. ``It may appear to some as though we went a little overboard because it was a paper gun, but what would those same people say if this incident was ignored and in a day, week or month the same student came to school with a firearm?'' Palamara asked. Authorities said that 8-year-old Hamadi Alston stood up at his desk at Augusta Street School last Thursday, pointed paper folded to look like a gun at his classmates and said, ``I'm going to kill you all.'' Hamadi said he was imitating what his friend, Jaquill Shelton, had done earlier that day. The police chief said Jaquill had given Hamadi the paper gun in the bathroom. The two boys were suspended and, under the district's zero-tolerance policy, school officials notified police, who charged the boys. ``Although the paper handgun posed no immediate threat to the students in the class, the words spoken certainly and appropriately were recognized by school officials and police as warning signs to cause concern,'' Palamara said. The court can now determine whether either boy needs counseling or just a stern warning, he said. The parents, as well as the Essex County prosecutor's office, were involved immediately, he said. The prosecutor's office did not immediately return a message seeking comment on Wednesday. ``This is just stupid, stupid, stupid,'' Ron Alston, Hamadi's father, told The Star-Ledger of Newark. ``How can you take two boys to the police precinct over a paper gun? This is very bad judgment.'' Superintendent Ernest Smith said he believes the boys meant no harm, but district policy requires that police be notified of such incidents. ``I thought this was unfortunate,'' Smith said. ``But, being that kids are being shot in schools across the country, children have to be taught they can't say certain words in public.''
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Blank Frank wrote:
Irvington Pupils Face Charges for Playing With Paper Gun.
How times turn. In most schools, there's a trophy case. And dated not so long ago, in many of them, there are marksmanship trophies... We had a varsity marksmanship squad, but I guess that was longer ago and further away than most folks are allowed to think now. Huzzah for the demise of school sports competitions... Bear
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote:
How times turn. In most schools, there's a trophy case. And dated not so long ago, in many of them, there are marksmanship trophies... We had a varsity marksmanship squad, but I guess that was longer ago and further away than most folks are allowed to think now.
My brother has his "letter" in High School from the school shooting team. That was only about five years ago or so.
Huzzah for the demise of school sports competitions...
I think we are losing the wrong ones. alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
Yes, but either the kids didn't say things like "I'm going to kill you all" to the class, or else they watched the TV News enough to know whether it's a bad day to say that sort of thing (....) Or at least they only said it on the playground when they were playing Native Americans and Invading European Cattle-Enslavers. At 05:37 PM 03/22/2001 -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Blank Frank wrote:
Irvington Pupils Face Charges for Playing With Paper Gun.
How times turn. In most schools, there's a trophy case. And dated not so long ago, in many of them, there are marksmanship trophies... We had a varsity marksmanship squad, but I guess that was longer ago and further away than most folks are allowed to think now.
Huzzah for the demise of school sports competitions...
Bear
At 18:53 -0800 on 3/22/01, Bill Stewart wrote:
Yes, but either the kids didn't say things like "I'm going to kill you all" to the class, or else they watched the TV News enough to know whether it's a bad day to say that sort of thing (....)
Or at least they only said it on the playground when they were playing Native Americans and Invading European Cattle-Enslavers.
I prefer the term Marauding Plague bearers from the East -- ____________________________________________________________________ volatile: Because all programs deserve SOME interrupt code... ____________________________________________________________________ Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott <mailto:kelliott@mac.com> ICQ#23758827
Not to mention rifle teams. I was on the one for my high school, and that was suburbia, not rural. -Declan On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 05:37:28PM -0800, Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Blank Frank wrote:
Irvington Pupils Face Charges for Playing With Paper Gun.
How times turn. In most schools, there's a trophy case. And dated not so long ago, in many of them, there are marksmanship trophies... We had a varsity marksmanship squad, but I guess that was longer ago and further away than most folks are allowed to think now.
Huzzah for the demise of school sports competitions...
Bear
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Alan Olsen
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Blank Frank
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Declan McCullagh
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Kevin Elliott
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Ray Dillinger