CDR: 2:15 am, Eastern Time--The Election Train Wreck
I just watched a group of punch drunk commission members debate whether to order a _manual recount_ of all ballots in Palm Beach County. They voted 2-1, and unless this is overturned (?), they will begin planning the recount effort on Monday. The count of a sample of 1% of the votes took all of today, so the count of 100 times as many total ballots will presumably take on the order of 100 days. Perhaps they can farm it out to temps and secretaries and get it done in just several weeks. They analyzed the "chads" and counted 33 additional votes for Gore, 14 for Bush. So this would imply about 19 additional votes for Gore over Bush. Then, extrapolating to the full population, 1900 additional votes for Gore over Bush (modulo statistical fluctuations). Of course, the Republicans will have to call for a manual recount of Duval County and all of the other counties where the same statistical examination should turn up votes for THEM. What a cluster fuck. Punch drunk, dazed burrowcrats triggering this train wreck. I will not forget this week, and not forget watching this latest event live, as it happened. Kind of the the "moon landing" of political train wrecks. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
What a cluster fuck. Punch drunk, dazed burrowcrats triggering this train wreck.
I will not forget this week, and not forget watching this latest event live, as it happened. Kind of the the "moon landing" of political train wrecks.
What I don't understand is why you are not laughing your ass off! This is karma coming back to bite both parties in the ass. To favor one over the other in this mess is like supporting Tweedledum in his effort to overthrow Tweedledee. BOTH sides are wrong. Neither deserve our support and if our luck holds, they will rip each other apart like crazed weasels on crack. alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
Alan:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000, Tim May wrote:
What a cluster fuck. Punch drunk, dazed burrowcrats triggering this train wreck.
I will not forget this week, and not forget watching this latest event live, as it happened. Kind of the the "moon landing" of political train wrecks.
What I don't understand is why you are not laughing your ass off!
Bush winning is bad, AlGore winning is worse. This insane infighting over the spoils is too much to stomach. It really doesn't matter which one wins, the damage is done. There is significantly less faith in the *voting* system this week than there was 7 days ago. This will mean even more trouble--more shitbags calling for "direct democracy" (hint folks, the problem isn't the electoral college it's a broken fucked up corrupt *balloting* system) more scum trying to fuck with the constitution or insisting that it be ignored. I'm not laughing because I really don't *want* to die in a fire-fight. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ********************************************** "Despite almost every experience I've ever had with federal authority, I keep imagining its competence." John Perry Barlow
At 02:29 AM 11/12/00 -0800, petro wrote:
Bush winning is bad, AlGore winning is worse. This insane infighting over the spoils is too much to stomach.
I disagree. The House and the Senate will be Republican, or at least nearly so. Al Gore with a 100-vote Florida plurality would have an extremely difficult time getting things accomplished in that environment. (Considering what Al wants to accomplish, that's probably good, especially since first priority is It's Still The Economy, Stupid.) George W. with a 100-vote Florida plurality and a minority popular vote position (with Gore and also Nader to the left of him) would get no respect at all, but would have a Republican Congress to make it much easier to accomplish things. I don't *want* the military-industrial complex rebuilt (though Nader says that AlGore likes them as much as Bush does.) Other than small tax cuts, nothing I've heard Bush suggest doing sounds worthwhile, and he does plan to spend more of your money even though he acknowledges that it's yours. Also, Bush would be under immense pressure to prove he's not a wimp, so he'd go do something decisive and Presidential as soon as possible, which is not a good thing to have lightweights doing. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
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