"Non libertarian anarchy?" Libertarian socialism,anarchy.anarcho-sydicalism,green anarchy,eko Anarki yes.(Libertarian anarchy?: Redundant.) "The trouble is that a lot of socialists call themselves anarchists either as a simple cynical lie: (parody of standard commie liar) : : "This time the state really will wither away. : : Trust us. We are different. Once we have total : : power over you and yours you will love it." Yes,so? They are quite easy to expose and I pursue chomsky,Klein and others to pin them down.I oppose the state above all.The biggest most dangerous(amerdika) first.All anarchists should do the same IMHO. : "I am really opposed to concentrated authority, : : therefore when I and people like me have all the : : necessary power to do all the good we intend to : : do to those selfish ignorant ungrateful masses, : : it will be the opposite of concentrated : : authority." I AM really opposed to concentrated authority! Thats why Im an anarchist and NOT a 'libertarian' I dont seek 'necessary power' for anything except operation soft drill.I have great faith in the spontaneous altruistic enlightened grateful masses to overthrow the last empire.You sound a little bitter and twisted on this subject james,are you OK?