DOJ steps up child porn fight, plan regulates digital cameras
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On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 06:09:08PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
II.2, which would not be mandated until April 1, 2003, is far more high-tech. Some observers believe it will spur development of this kind of advanced artificial intelligence, giving U.S. tech firms a badly-needed boost given the recent stock market downturn.
I have used one of these. Now that the NDC conditions have run out, I can talk about it. The coolest feature, which the article doesn't mention, is its offer of counseling to those about to take a "forbidden" photograph. The AI technology involved in spotting the photo is sufficiently sophisticated that the manufacturers thought they might as well add voice capabilities. Don't get me wrong: it's not HAL9000. More like Eliza. But before notifying the feds (at least in the model I saw), you can be engaged in a Jungian-style discussion about early family troubles in the hopes that you will repent. The major fight, which could keep this functionality out of the final production models, is whether the cameras could explore miscreant's feelings about breast feeding. Despite affadavits from the American Psychological Association (APA) and other well-known groups, various members of congress found the topic unsavory. -- Greg
I would think the current administration would be more interested in some sort of faith based counseling. On Sunday, April 1, 2001, at 04:01 PM, Greg Newby wrote:
Don't get me wrong: it's not HAL9000. More like Eliza. But before notifying the feds (at least in the model I saw), you can be engaged in a Jungian-style discussion about early family troubles in the hopes that you will repent.
New generations to be unveiled every year on this day, I expect? --Tim At 6:09 PM -0400 4/1/01, Declan McCullagh wrote:
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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Subject: FC: DOJ steps up child porn fight, plan regulates digital cameras To: politech@politechbot.com Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:07:24 -0400 X-URL: Politech is at http://www.politechbot.com/
http://www.cluebot.com/article.pl?sid=01/04/01/2155249
DOJ STEPS UP CHILD PORNOGRAPHY FIGHT Proposal makes digital cameras "childsafe"
April 1, 2001 By Staff Writer
WASHINGTON -- Citing the explosive growth in child pornography and obscenity, the U.S. Department of Justice aims to rein in the fast-growing digital camera industry.
A DOJ project code-named "Indecent Images" plans to implant technologies developed to automatically recognize hard-core Internet sex images into the next generation of cameras. An II-compliant camera will refuse to take illegal photographs or videos, and could even quietly tip off law enforcement to illicit behavior.
On Friday, a DOJ spokeswoman confirmed the existence of the II project, and said that the remarkable number of child pornographers now using digital cameras on the Internet underground represents a new challenge to law enforcement that Congress should carefully consider.
The spokeswoman declined to provide details, but one DOJ source said the Office of Legislative Affairs has drafted legislation and plans to send it to Capitol Hill next month. The Senate has previously voted to condemn the menace of children and sex.
"One we'd prosecute child pornographers who take rolls of film to the corner fot-o-mat for developing," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "But now when everything's digital, we can no longer protect America's children. We need a new First Amendment for the digital age."
Child pornography appears to be a popular Internet hobby. An Altavista search returns 25,999 pages found that "match your search criteria." A Google search turns up far more child pornography: 425,000 hits.
A spokesman for President Bush said the White House supports the II plan, which is consistent with the 2000 Republican Party platform that urged strenuous activity involving "obscenity and child pornography." Bush said last year that: "It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet."
Critics said the II draft bill raises free speech concerns.
An ACLU spokeswoman said that the II proposal would unreasonably restrict legitimate art and photography, and that the technology to recognize images as child pornography or obscenity is far from perfect. The ACLU and the American Library Association filed suit earlier this month to overturn the Children's Internet Protection Act, which encourages libraries to use filtering software -- some of which uses II-type technology.
The bill would likely be sponsored in the Senate by Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Judiciary chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), and in the House by Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.). Hatch and Feinstein co-sponsored the 1996 "morphed" child porn law that is currently the subject of a legal challenge, and an aide said Feinstein viewed this as a logical extension of using technology to thwart inappropriate views and behavior.
The DOJ proposal requires the Federal Communications Commission -- which already regulates "indecent" broadcasts -- to police the digital photo and video industry as well. Any manufacturer seeking a license to sell such products in the U.S. after April 1, 2002 would have to demonstrate that they were II-compatible to receive FCC approval under agency rule 602P.
Nikon and Canon, which sell digital cameras, could not immediately be reached for comment. Kodak faxed a statement to reporters over the weekend that said: "We never have approved of the use of our products to record intercourse, missionary position or otherwise, with children, and we look forward to working with law enforcement to meet their concerns."
The II technology plan, according to an outline provided by the DOJ source, has two phases: II.1, which scans images using advanced neural networks to recognize and delete illicit material.
II.2, which would not be mandated until April 1, 2003, is far more high-tech. Some observers believe it will spur development of this kind of advanced artificial intelligence, giving U.S. tech firms a badly-needed boost given the recent stock market downturn.
The II draft says that "any variant" of digital still or video camera must include a GPS device and a transmitter that is compatible with U.S. pager networks. When a child pornographer takes an illegal photo, the camera recognizes it and transmits an encrypted message containing the image, the date, and the location to the local police -- who would then raid the home and save the child from continued erotic exploitation.
The Family Research Council, which estimates it has been involved in helping police make 83.5 percent of arrests related to child pornography, applauded the II approach. "It's about time Congress did something hard-core on this issue," said FRC spokesman and author Martin Rimm. "The Internet should be more than a place where children can have sex with dogs."
The DOJ wants to encourage photo-video manufacturers to license technology from companies such as Exotrope, a firm in New York state that sells porn-recognition software. New York Governor George Pataki has applauded Exotrope's "state-of-the-art technology and PC Magazine gave it an "editor's choice" award.
The FRC's Rimm, who conducted a highly-publicized Carnegie Mellon University study into how pornography is marketed on the information superhighway -- an updated version will soon be published in Georgetown University's law review -- says he hopes Congress will act swiftly.
"My research shows 'paraphilic pornography' is on the rise," he said. "Our research team has undertaken the first comprehensive study of child pornography on the information superhighway, and let me tell you: Perversion has gone digital, and we need to penetrate this problem now."
Compiled from staff and wire reports
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I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html -Declan
That's not mainstream media. That's a computer industry rumor site that's wrong most of the time. Besides, the founder just got fired and started a new site, so what few viewers they had got disgusted and left. It used to be funny without stelaing from others. At 12:00 AM 4/2/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html
-Declan
-Colin
Okay, okay, I was exaggerating. The Register is actually in on the joke, and reprinted the article, not stole it. -Declan At 12:06 AM 4/2/01 -0700, Colin A. Reed wrote:
That's not mainstream media. That's a computer industry rumor site that's wrong most of the time. Besides, the founder just got fired and started a new site, so what few viewers they had got disgusted and left. It used to be funny without stelaing from others.
At 12:00 AM 4/2/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html
-Declan
-Colin
This is an April Fool, right? Even if the tech existed, it would require substantial processing power and there's no way they could get it into cameras by... um, by April First ... Bear "Remember, Remember The fifth of november The gunpowder Treason and Plot. I see no reason The gunpowder treason should ever be forgot..." Rhyme taught to twenty-second century british children, just before detonating the charge under an effigy of a "Parliament Building"... --Time traveler's guide to seasonal celebrations. On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html
-Declan
Yes, it's a joke. -Declan At 02:17 PM 4/2/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
This is an April Fool, right? Even if the tech existed, it would require substantial processing power and there's no way they could get it into cameras by... um, by April First ...
Bear
"Remember, Remember The fifth of november The gunpowder Treason and Plot. I see no reason The gunpowder treason should ever be forgot..."
Rhyme taught to twenty-second century british children, just before detonating the charge under an effigy of a "Parliament Building"... --Time traveler's guide to seasonal celebrations.
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html
-Declan
ya know this does sound like an april fools joke (esp. the part about encouraging the photographer to enter into counseling.) but while working for aol i remember companies trying to sell me on the concept of 'anti-porn' pic filtering software. it worked by looking for a high percentage of flesh tones in a pic. if the pic hit the min. level of flesh tone we could block it from proxy servers, or filter it from kid view, etc. worked essentially like the satellite image processing software used to locate certain types of flora or pollution, etc. none of it was quick enough or reliable enough to work properly (not sure about the current state of the art though). phillip -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Ray Dillinger Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:18 PM To: Declan McCullagh Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net; fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Re: DOJ steps up child porn fight, plan regulates digital cameras This is an April Fool, right? Even if the tech existed, it would require substantial processing power and there's no way they could get it into cameras by... um, by April First ... Bear "Remember, Remember The fifth of november The gunpowder Treason and Plot. I see no reason The gunpowder treason should ever be forgot..." Rhyme taught to twenty-second century british children, just before detonating the charge under an effigy of a "Parliament Building"... --Time traveler's guide to seasonal celebrations. On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I note the mainstream media is picking up on this story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/8/18028.html
-Declan
At 05:55 PM 4/2/01 -0400, Phillip H. Zakas wrote:
ya know this does sound like an april fools joke (esp. the part about encouraging the photographer to enter into counseling.)
Particularly if you only ran across it Monday. Got Mr. Bear, too. There are some cute RFCs dated 1.4.x too. but while working
for aol i remember companies trying to sell me on the concept of 'anti-porn' pic filtering software. it worked by looking for a high percentage of flesh tones in a pic.
Yeah but all that blue latex and black leather screws up the pinkfilter. To say nothing of the feathers, whipped cream, or blood.
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote:
but while working
for aol i remember companies trying to sell me on the concept of 'anti-porn' pic filtering software. it worked by looking for a high percentage of flesh tones in a pic.
Yeah but all that blue latex and black leather screws up the pinkfilter. To say nothing of the feathers, whipped cream, or blood.
Or that not all people are pink. This sounds like an interesting descrimination suit waiting to happen. ]:> "Your porn filter descriminates for people of color!" alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
i'll resist the urge to point out farm animal skin tones probably weren't filtered, either. eieio. -----Original Message----- From: owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM [mailto:owner-cypherpunks@Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Alan Olsen Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:00 AM To: David Honig Cc: Phillip H. Zakas; Ray Dillinger; Declan McCullagh; cypherpunks@cyberpass.net; fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu Subject: RE: DOJ steps up child porn fight, plan regulates digital cameras On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote:
but while working
for aol i remember companies trying to sell me on the concept of 'anti-porn' pic filtering software. it worked by looking for a high percentage of flesh tones in a pic.
Yeah but all that blue latex and black leather screws up the pinkfilter. To say nothing of the feathers, whipped cream, or blood.
Or that not all people are pink. This sounds like an interesting descrimination suit waiting to happen. ]:> "Your porn filter descriminates for people of color!" alan@ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."
At 08:59 PM 4/2/01 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote:
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, David Honig wrote:
but while working
for aol i remember companies trying to sell me on the concept of 'anti-porn' pic filtering software. it worked by looking for a high percentage of flesh tones in a pic.
Yeah but all that blue latex and black leather screws up the pinkfilter. To say nothing of the feathers, whipped cream, or blood.
Or that not all people are pink.
Yeah, if your porn-AI can parse http://www.mccullagh.org/theme/dazzle-dancers.html you're a better heurist than I.
participants (9)
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Alan Olsen
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Colin A. Reed
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David Honig
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Declan McCullagh
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Fog Storm
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Greg Newby
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Phillip H. Zakas
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Ray Dillinger
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Tim May