Allow me to be more uncharacteristically succinct (it's been a long day): Ms. Lynch, get a clue. Stop frothing. Until then, spare us the venting. Yours truly, A friend On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 05:58:02PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:

Ms. Lynch,

I'm sorry to hear of your discomfiture. I believe I may be able to help in some small manner.

First off Sean has no input into the operation of SSZ and it's resources. If you are having a problem with a resource at ssz.com then you should speak to me.

Let's address each of the problems in turn.

- You are subscribed to a CDR node, which one?

If your email says it comes from cypherpunks@ssz.com or something similar then you can unsubscribe following the instructions at,

http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr/index.html

Otherwise you'll need to contact the list admin at the site you do get it at. There are currently something in the range of six or seven active sites you could be subscribed through. They are listed in the above URL.

- You didn't sign up to the list.

The SSZ node does not allow 2-party subscriptions. This means that your email address can only be (un)subscribed from the list from the same address that is being (un)subscribed. A party at another address would require manual processing of such a request and I haven't had any and don't generaly grant them If you are getting email from SSZ and you did not do it yourself,

Your account is cracked very possibly, somebody has your password and is using it. Please contact your ISP or network system administration and request information for dealing with such an incident.

- As to reporting this site. To alleviate your sense of injustice I can assure you there are several federal and foreign law and intelligence agencies monitoring this list.

Fortunately, the majority of nodes (and SSZ in particular) are located in the United States so the legal recourse open to you is very limited under US law. I have a lawyer familiar in the legal standings, I'd be happy to to provide you his name if you're interested in further research into this matter.

Good luck getting your problems straightened out.

____________________________________________________________________

He is able who thinks he is able.

Buddha

The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Sean Roach wrote:

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You try to be civil, you get threatened.

I guess I learned my lesson. Last one turned out to be reasonable.

Good luck,

Sean Roach

By the way, is the shift Only used for emphasis these days? What about punctuation? Is there a corrollary to usage of punctuation, capitalization, and intelligence?

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From: "Vanessa Lynch" To: "Sean Roach" Subject: RE: take me off ur list thank you! Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 10:07:48 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Rcpt-To: X-DPOP: Email supplied by temporary trial Version 2.8e of DPOP

i did NOT subscribe to this crap so u take me off or im reporting this site!!!!!!1

-----Original Message----- From: Sean Roach [mailto:roach_s@intplsrv.net] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 2:15 PM To: Vanessa Lynch Subject: Re: take me off ur list thank you!

At 12:37 PM 10/12/2000, you wrote:

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Vanessa Lynch Manager, Partner Services Predict It, Inc. P 212.217.1223 E vlynch@predicit.com

Do so yourself by sending a message to majordomo@einstein.ssz.com with unsubscribe cypherpunks on it's own line, in the body.

It is also possible, it's not my job to check, that your end of the list may use a different listserve program.

You should have gotten instructions for unsubscribing yourself when you first subscribed.