Hey...this looks interesting. I'd like to see the email chain before this. While living in China I learned that whatever Jong Nan Hai most vociferously denies will almost certainly be true, so even Chinese Government propaganda is very interesting. -TD

From: Dave Howe To: Email List: Cypherpunks Subject: Re: no visas for Chinese cryptologists Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:33:01 +0100

Hasan Diwan wrote:

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if the US wants to maintain its fantasy, it will need a Ministry of Truth to do so. Cheers, Hasan Diwan And the airing of government-issued news bulletins without attributation (or indeed, anything from Fox News) doesn't convince you there already is one?