Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism
George wrote :
`(3) FACTORS IN DETERMINING EXEMPTION- In determining whether a person qualifies for the exemption under paragraph (2), the factors to be considered shall include-- `(A) whether the information derived from the encryption research was disseminated, and if so, whether it was disseminated in a manner reasonably calculated to advance the state of knowledge or development of encryption technology, versus whether it was whether it was disseminated in a manner that facilitates infringement under this title or a violation of applicable law other than this section, including a violation of privacy or breach of security;
-Declan
I've been rereading this a bunch of times trying to figure out what, if anything, it's supposed to mean. I've come up with two slightly different interpretations:
1) If you release your results at a university-sponsored conference you're an exempt researcher, but if you release identical results at Defcon you're a criminal.
2) Anyone with the financial resources or legal background to get this law overturned on Constitutional grounds is not to be prosecuted in the first place.
I think 2 is actually the more accurate reading.
George
It's pretty odd. That is to say, aren't most academic results eventually available to the world at large? The more interesting or applicable they are the faster they spread. So what's the difference where and how the information is released? It is either part of the public forum or it is not. Are we going to split academic publications into two classes now? Will you need a license to hear certain lectures and be prohibited from passing on what you've learned? (3)(A) is an unfairly arbitrary criterion for assigning criminal culpability. Also, what is the relevance of the "or a violation of applicable law other than this section, including a violation of privacy or breach of security" bit? Are they trying to apply the DMCA to anyone who publishes information that makes it easier to develop exploits against OS bugs? That piece seems out of place. There must be a reason it was included. As for George's #2, DMCA does have that flavor. I suppose that it will retain its value as a means for intimidation, Constitutional or otherwise, as long as it is not tested. Then there's the nightmare scenario in which it is upheld. Let's not go there. DMCA is ***not that bad***, at least there is a research exemption but if you want to be a pessimist it looks as though you could be screwed for communicating your knowledge to anyone but a partner or the owner of the copyright protection system. Free labor for the copyright holder. The satisfaction of a job well done for the laboror. Somehow the information derived from study belongs to the owner of the thing studied. Why not apply the same principal to the studies of the human genome? As for Mr. Felton's run-in with this abomination, did he sign any sort of contract with the music guys to get the materials he needed to do his work? That might change how we view his situation relative to DMCA. Mike
On 27 Jul 2001, at 17:04, mmotyka@lsil.com wrote:
George wrote :
As for Mr. Felton's run-in with this abomination, did he sign any sort of contract with the music guys to get the materials he needed to do his work? That might change how we view his situation relative to DMCA.
Mike
Well, maybe. As I recall, one of the things mentioned in the complaint is that he violated the click-through license agreement by publishing his results. My understanding is that it has not been thoroughly resolved how binding these things are. I think it's only in Dilbert that you can click on one of these without reading it and wind up as Bill Gates' towelboy, but IANAL. ObPuzzle: You are in a room with three monkeys. One has a banana, one has a stick, one has nothing. Which primate is the smartest? George
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 27 July 2001 20:27, georgemw@speakeasy.net wrote:
ObPuzzle: You are in a room with three monkeys. One has a banana, one has a stick, one has nothing. Which primate is the smartest?
ANSWER: The monkey without anything. EXPLANATION: The monkey with the banana but without the stick is disqualified; he has nothing to defend his prize, trusting in the decency of the "society" of primates he lives in to protect him and his valuable belongings. A clear case of wishful thinking. The monkey with the stick but no banana is disqualified as well. He has spent his resources to gain the means of taking wealth (the banana) by force; resources including energy, time and intelligence. However, he has a stick, not a gun, and as soon as he tries to take the banana from his neighbor the other primates will attack him as a threat to the "common good". You, on the other hand, are disqualified as well. Although you are a primate, and some would claim that as a human you win by default, you're dumb enough to get stuck in a room with three monkeys. Which leaves the monkey who has nothing. If the monkey with the stick attempts to take the banana, the resulting fight will likely leave the other two monkeys out of the running; the banana monkey weakened by the initial attack and the stick monkey beaten by the mass counterattack. Leaving him with the banana and the stick. Remember, it's *always* the quiet ones. - -- Matt Beland matt@rearviewmirror.org http://www.rearviewmirror.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7YkR4BxcVTa6Gy5wRAmv1AJ9Bcl4s6HPewaGLUAuDs3IzTgNGwgCfYNhz +nsGIep44V1kR52fs4vH7Qw= =TTrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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