
Sniper weapons should be restricted A .50-caliber BMG sniper rifle, in the wrong hands, would be terrorism unleashed. The gun is powerful enough to punch a hole in an oil tank or take down a civilian airplane. Its 5 1/2-inch long bullets can pierce an inch of armor 40 yards away and hit a target a mile away. A massive weapon, with some models weighing in at 28 pounds, it's ill-suited for hunters -- it would take out a deer and the tree behind it -- but ideal for assassins. Monday, July 28, 2003 (Mercury News) http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/6400612.htm See my opinion piece reply at http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/opinion/6442894.htm "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General

On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:21:54AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
Sniper weapons should be restricted A .50-caliber BMG sniper rifle, in the wrong hands, would be terrorism unleashed. The gun is powerful enough to punch a hole in an oil tank or take down a civilian airplane. Its 5 1/2-inch long bullets can pierce an
What crap, eh? The bullet is more like 1.5" -- even a 20mm doesn't have a 5.5" bullet. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

On Saturday 02 August 2003 20:27, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:21:54AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
Sniper weapons should be restricted A .50-caliber BMG sniper rifle, in the wrong hands, would be terrorism unleashed. The gun is powerful enough to punch a hole in an oil tank or take down a civilian airplane. Its 5 1/2-inch long bullets can pierce an
What crap, eh? The bullet is more like 1.5" -- even a 20mm doesn't have a 5.5" bullet.
You forget that this is the popular press. Doubtless they're describing the full length of the round, including casing.

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:21:54AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
Sniper weapons should be restricted A .50-caliber BMG sniper rifle, in the wrong hands, would be terrorism unleashed. The gun is powerful enough to punch a hole in an oil tank or take down a civilian airplane. Its 5 1/2-inch long bullets can pierce an
What crap, eh? The bullet is more like 1.5" -- even a 20mm doesn't have a 5.5" bullet.
Dipshit, they're talking about the entire shell. While their mistake makes them seem ludicrous at best, your spin doctor bullshit doesn't help you either. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 09:21:46PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:21:54AM -0700, Steve Schear wrote:
Sniper weapons should be restricted A .50-caliber BMG sniper rifle, in the wrong hands, would be terrorism unleashed. The gun is powerful enough to punch a hole in an oil tank or take down a civilian airplane. Its 5 1/2-inch long bullets can pierce an
What crap, eh? The bullet is more like 1.5" -- even a 20mm doesn't have a 5.5" bullet.
Dipshit, they're talking about the entire shell.
While their mistake makes them seem ludicrous at best, your spin doctor bullshit doesn't help you either.
Spin doctor yer ass. A bullet is a bullet is a bullet. Cartridge is quite something else -- made up of case, powder, primer, and *bullet*. So their ignorance is apparant, if they don't even know the basic facts, what could they possibly have to say that was relevant? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Spin doctor yer ass. A bullet is a bullet is a bullet. Cartridge is quite something else
You mean 'casing', a cartridge is a bullet, case, powder, and primer. The whole shebang. Which is what they're talking about with 'bullet'. To most people, they draw zero distinction between the two. And since you can't even seem to get it right... The fact is that you're using that confusion to ridicule for no reason other than your own ego. -- ____________________________________________________________________ We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space" ravage@ssz.com jchoate@open-forge.org www.ssz.com www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 11:39:41PM -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:
Spin doctor yer ass. A bullet is a bullet is a bullet. Cartridge is quite something else
You mean 'casing', a cartridge is a bullet, case, powder, and primer. The whole shebang. Which is what they're talking about with 'bullet'.
Uhh, are you not able to read these days? Better re-read my last post, you snipped it and then said what I just said: " Spin doctor yer ass. A bullet is a bullet is a bullet. Cartridge is quite something else -- made up of case, powder, primer, and *bullet*. So their ignorance is apparant, if they don't even know the basic facts, what could they possibly have to say that was relevant? " I don't mean "casing". Geez. What is your problem? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com
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