At 05:06 PM 10/6/04 +0100, Dave Howe wrote:

Major Variola (ret) wrote:

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There is a bill in this year's Ca election to require DNA sampling of

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anyone arrested. Not convicted of a felony, but arrested.

Doesn't surprise me - the UK police collected a huge bunch of fingerprints and dna samples "for elimination purposes" during one of the child-murder witchhunts, with written promises given that the samples were just for that one task, and would be destroyed once the hunt was over. They still kept them anyway of course, and made them the basis for

[as in arrested for protesting] their

new "national dna database".

The UK is a fantastic example of the US in a few years. In a way, the UK population are beta testers for the statism of the future here. If it passes in the UK, they'll try it in the US in a 'wee bit'. Its when Ross Anderson ends up detained as an enemy combatant that the sleeper cells (tm) will be triggered. Not only DNA, of course; surveillance cameras, papers on demand, domestic CIA (MI-blah) powers, etc. And y'all are our obediant and faithful military poodles. Only the Aussies and Iberians have gotten the feedback though. Your turn will come. Batman in a turban, mofo. We sympathize, of course, protestant angliospeaking folks are regarded as human, but bemoan your lack of constitutional protections (here my more cynical friends accuse me of bill-o'-rights religion) and you must pay penance for Benny Hill, anyway. <insert Franklin's security for freedom subversion here> ------ No one expects the BSA (in a silly voice) ------ \begin{TMay} Funny how those needing killing are nearly universally elected or appointed... what was that old-school Frog's comment about democracy? \end{TMay} ----- Got ANFO?