On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Neil Johnson wrote:

I subscribed to cyberpass.net and am still not getting any messages. Is this related to ssz ?

This is an important point, all the nodes need to be inter-connected. If you're only getting a single feed then you're open to service failure at a single point. If we're all interconnected it takes a n-point failure to take the entire net down. If anyone wants me to add them to the SSZ feed drop me a line privately. Distribution is power! Here's my current feed: PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin/ MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/received DEFAULT=/dev/null LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log # htp.org retired :0 Wh | formail -D 12800 msgid.cache :0 c !cpunks@minder.net :0 c !cypherpunks@openpgp.net :0 c !cypherpunks@algebra.com :0 c !cypherpunks@cyberpass.net :0 c !cypherpunks@ds.pro-ns.net :0 c !mailman-cypherpunks@koeln.ccc.de :0: * ^X-Loop:.*ssz.com /dev/null :0 c !cypherpunks@ssz.com ____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

Already in place. cypherpunks@ds.pro-ns.net is the address. Mail to majordomo@ds.pro-ns.net to get on the list. It's served by one of my machines at the ISP that I own. Bandwidth is dedicated and reliable. It's been running for several months. I'm just not good at marketing. -Bill -- Bill O'Hanlon wmo@pro-ns.net Professional Network Services, Inc. 612-379-3958 On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 11:28:51AM -0500, BMM wrote:

cyberpass has "lost" its subscriber list at least once, so you might want to confirm that you actually are currently subscribed. SSZ has occasional extended downtimes and the charming CDR prefix. I'm unsure of the status of algebra.com, as Igor has asked me to deliver to those who were subscribed there. That leaves openpgp.net and minder.net. Anyone with some dedicated, reliable bandwidth want to run a node?

Cheers,

-Brian

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Neil Johnson wrote:

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I subscribed to cyberpass.net and am still not getting any messages. Is this related to ssz ?

-Neil

Neil M. Johnson njohnson@interl.net http://www.interl.net/~njohnson PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" <bill.stewart@pobox.com> To: "Neil Johnson" <njohnson@interl.net>; <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 7:03 PM Subject: Re: ssz.com network trouble

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I did a traceroute (well, mswindoze tracert, anyway), and got a "destination unreachable" from a machine at realtime.net in Austin. SSZ has often been unreliable; I think it's connected by ISDN, and it's raining down in Texas.

At 06:30 PM 11/18/00 -0600, Neil Johnson wrote:

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Is there something wrong with ssz.com. I haven't gotten any list mail and I can get to the site.

Thanks.

Neil M. Johnson njohnson@interl.net http://www.interl.net/~njohnson PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC

Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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At 10:07 AM 11/20/00 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:

Hi Bill, On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Bill Stewart wrote:

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I did a traceroute (well, mswindoze tracert, anyway), and got a "destination unreachable" from a machine at realtime.net in Austin. SSZ has often been unreliable;

Unreliable?

The context of my message was "don't panic if you haven't been able to connect to SSZ for the last few hours, it happens sometimes"; I wasn't saying "don't trust those unreliable bums" :-)

We average six and eight month uptimes. And when the outages occur it has been either hardware failure or a service failure. We average 2 hardware failures per year and it usualy(!) takes less than 4 hours to have it replaced (not bad for off the shelf consumer equipment). ...We usualy get about 4 service interruptions of some sort or another a month. They usualy last about 4 hours.

I agree that's not bad for off the shelf equipment not located at a heavy-duty colocation facility, though I thought you've also had the occasional power hit take you down. ISDN isn't the kind of thing to use if you're paranoid about not having your connection flake once in a while, but it's pretty good (if the price is right) for a mostly-reliable service and is pretty good at self-recovery if you've got a service provider with multiple dialin locations.

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I think it's connected by ISDN, and it's raining down in Texas.

Yes, we had a ISDN/Ethernet issue. Replacing the hardware with a suitable model was harder than expected, coudn't find anyone open with stock on Saturday.

As to rain, 4in/hr is a tad more than a sprinkle junior.

Yup. Telecom networks often get grouchy about that sort of thing, especially when they're going out to your house or small business, and I'd been guessing you were probably having that or a power problem. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639