~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT Reply to: ssandfort@attmail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just a minor quibble to Tim May's otherwise excellent post on ATM cameras and image recognition. Tim said: Comment: The case of banks having cameras doesn't bother me much at all, as the bank already knows exactly who its customers are. That is, the surveillance is not used to gather any information the bank does not already have immediate and complete access to. Not quite true. One very good privacy technique is to use an ATM or credit card issued to someone else. How can this be done? Well, a friend (preferably a visiting foreigner) could do it for you. Or you could hire a bum (pardon; "hygienically challenged person") to do the honors. At any rate, you wouldn't want to get busted by an image recognizing ATM, now would you? S a n d y "Privacy Consultation and Services since 1978" (Sorry Duncan, got you beat by a mile) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sandy Sandfort writes:
Not quite true. One very good privacy technique is to use an ATM or credit card issued to someone else. How can this be done? Well, a friend (preferably a visiting foreigner) could do it for you. Or you could hire a bum (pardon; "hygienically challenged person") to do the honors. At any rate, you wouldn't want to get busted by an image recognizing ATM, now would you?
OK, you got me here. I wasn't thinking of cases where you might want to deceive your own bank! By the way, the folks you referred to as bums no longer like to be called the "hygienically challenged." Now in vogue is "differently odored." Only a few days ago in sci.astro I had to correct someone who was using the unacceptable term "brown dwarf." My Politically Correct Online Dictionary automatically corrected that to the more sensitive term "differently-sized star of color." (To non-U.S. residents to whom this joke may be puzzling, "cripples" became "handicapped," then "disabled," then "physically challenged," and are now, last time I heard, to be called "differently abled.") The only real Cypherpunks links are the general political aspects and the very important issue that in cyherspace we'll be able to be as politically incorrect and oafish as we wish. The anonyomous remailers are just the start. Of course, the easily offended will also have the easy option of tuning out speech they don't want to hear. I'll take the "technology of disconnection" (Kevin Kelly, "Whole Earth Review") over "electronic democracy" any day. -Tim -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Note: I put time and money into writing this posting. I hope you enjoy it.
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