U> The most pressing thing is not to integrate encryptions in U> mail handlers, but at the level of ether. Ether is an U> enormous security hole. I can walk up to anything running Who uses ethernet?! :-) I think it's safe to say our FidoNet doesn't have three feet of thinwire in it. We're all dialup. Message-reader integrated security is where it's at -- here. You're totally right about it though... but it requires physical access. * Origin: World Power Systems / FidoNews / San Francisco CA (1:125/111) -- Tom Jennings - via FidoNet node 1:125/555 UUCP: ...!uunet!hoptoad!kumr!fidogate!111!Tom.Jennings INTERNET: Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Who uses ethernet?! :-)
Everyone here at UC Berkeley.
I think it's safe to say our FidoNet doesn't have three feet of thinwire in it. We're all dialup. Message-reader integrated security is where it's at -- here.
In the case of FidoNet, it sounds like that's what's needed, because your mail is being sent from systems that are not multiuser systems. The net really is just for exchanging files and mail; it isn't for remote computer access.
You're totally right about it though... but it requires physical access.
Physical access is much easier than people think. I can walk into almost any computer room here at UC Berkeley and plug in. And we have something called building ether in the building I work in: all of the machines in this section of the building are on the same ether net. This means that if we want to see other researchers' data before it's published, we can, because we can see all of their packets. e
Who uses ethernet?! :-)
I do at home, want to tap it? simple. just crawl under my house and pug in to any jack, don't owrry about bringing batteies there are plenty of 120V outlets. -Pete PS: and soon I plan on using ISDN to bridge by home ethernet backbone onto the internet
From: Peter Shipley <shipley@tfs.com>
Who uses ethernet?! :-)
I do at home, want to tap it? simple. just crawl under my house and pug in to any jack, don't owrry about bringing batteies there are plenty of 120V outlets.
-Pete
PS: and soon I plan on using ISDN to bridge by home ethernet backbone onto the internet
Old hat -- I still remember the days of yore (only about five years ago, but it seems like an eternity) when I worked at bellcore and Phil Karn revealed to me that his home network was on the internet. All I've got from home is a wimpy little UUCP link to this very day. Perry
Old hat -- I still remember the days of yore (only about five years ago, but it seems like an eternity) when I worked at bellcore and Phil Karn revealed to me that his home network was on the internet. All I've got from home is a wimpy little UUCP link to this very day.
What I was pointing out was how trivial it would be to compromise such networks (not that I have such a network).
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Eric Hollander
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Peter Shipley
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pmetzger@shearson.com
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Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG