I urge all Cypherpunks to keep up with what's happening in several newsgroups: * alt.security.pgp and sci.crypt, for the latest in availability of PGP, MacPGP, etc. Also, a debate over Dorothy Denning's ideas on key registration and restrictions on crypto. (And for entertainment, David Sternlight and our own Perry Metzger are duking it out. Sternlight caused MacPGP to be pulled off the announced archive sites.) * news.admin.policy, for the latest on Julf's shutdown of his anonymous server, and for discussion of proposed successors. The whole shutdown is an important topic--perhaps someday Julf will be able to tell the whole story. Mention of the "Cypherpunks remailers" has been made in several places....this may be a good time to a) prepare for a wave of new users, b) be sure the code is solid and ready, and c) advertise the existence of the remailers and which one are up, which ones require PGP, etc. And given that our systems are "even more anonymous" that Julf's was, the abuses seen with his system will have to be faced on our systems. The alleged abuses of Julf's system: supposedly a picture of a burn victim was posted to one of the erotica groups (tacky in the extreme, but hardly illegal or a threat), instructions on how to poison cats (also tacky but not ipso facto criminal), etc. (I don't know what the culminating case was, nor will I speculate.) As we've talked about before, some folks may try to shut us down by deliberately posting extremely controversial material. There was also a major flamewar over the weekend when one Richard DePew decided to initiate his "ARMM" ("Automated Retroactive Minimal Moderation") program, which sent out "CANCEL" notices for anonymous messages posted to certain groups. Very controversial, and a sign of things to come. (The connection, if any, with Julf's shutdown remains unclear. Certainly the whole issue of anonymous postings reached a head this past weekend. Sternlight's threats about PGP may have been involved as well. Julf?) (Cypherpunks remailers may want to change the "Nobody" and "Anonymous" tags to names that are less screenable, less susceptible to censorship by ARMM-type programs. Using a rotating list of fictional or historical names may be an approach, but I'm sure we can think of many ways to bypass ARMM-type cancellers.) These are certainly interesting times. -Tim May -- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: MailSafe and PGP available.
And given that our systems are "even more anonymous" that Julf's was, the abuses seen with his system will have to be faced on our systems. The alleged abuses of Julf's system: supposedly a picture of a burn victim was posted to one of the erotica groups (tacky in the extreme, but hardly illegal or a threat), instructions on how to poison cats (also tacky but not ipso facto criminal), etc. (I don't know what the culminating case was, nor will I speculate.)
Uh... I really am a bit hesitant to talk about this, so I would appreciate it if you kept this private. A very visible and highly-regarded net personality took offense at some rather abusive exchanges in talk.politics.mideast, and contacted just the right people in a very politically loaded Finnish networking scene, but I know he acted out of a regard for (his wiew of) the best for the networking community. I have been expecting him to come forward and state his reasons. The problem is that I live in a country where somebody got thrown in jail for high treason for selling a couple of old, second-hand VAX machines to the former Eastern Block. And as people managed to turn the mail "from an international networking authority" into proof of the fact that I was destroying the image of networking in Finland in the eyes of the international community....
There was also a major flamewar over the weekend when one Richard DePew decided to initiate his "ARMM" ("Automated Retroactive Minimal Moderation") program, which sent out "CANCEL" notices for anonymous messages posted to certain groups. Very controversial, and a sign of things to come. (The connection, if any, with Julf's shutdown remains unclear. Certainly the whole issue of anonymous postings reached a head this past weekend. Sternlight's threats about PGP may have been involved as well. Julf?)
The ARMM thing actually backfired in a spectacular fashion, causing a lot of people to speak up in defence of the service.
These are certainly interesting times.
Uh, yes, in many ways (says Julf, fresh back from Slovakia...)
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