Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool
Do you have a reference? I don't remember reading that SACD was encrypted. What I DO remember is that the reason there's no standard SACD or DVD-A digital interface is because the Industry wants that digital interface to be encrypted. -TD
From: Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 07:30:05 +0200 (CEST)
Thomas Shaddup writes:
As a welcomed side effect, not only we'd get a device for circumvention of just about any contemporary (and possibly a good deal of the future ones) optical media "protections"
This is only for the minimal forms of "protection" which are designed to work with existing CD/DVD players. If you look at the new audio formats like SACD, they use encrypted data. All your lasers won't do you any good unless you can pry a key (and the algorithm!) out of a consumer player, which won't be easy assuming it is in a tamper-resistant unit. And you can bet the industry won't make the mistake again of allowing software-based players, as they did with the DeCSS affair.
In short, you're fighting yesterday's war. Try looking ahead a bit to see where the battlegrounds of the future will be contested.
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Tyler Durden wrote:
Do you have a reference? I don't remember reading that SACD was encrypted. What I DO remember is that the reason there's no standard SACD or DVD-A digital interface is because the Industry wants that digital interface to be encrypted.
Furthermore, people have come to expect that they should be able to play whatever disc shaped media in their computer. At some point there will need to be a software based player. But the real issue is that all of these DRM methods rely on "security by obscurity". Such methods eventually fail. Either the actual method is discovered and published or the DRM method fails in the marketplace and is never heard from again.
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