Re: Another restriction on technology - cell and cordless scanning now a felony

Nice post, Could this be warped into affecting wardriving for 802.11b connections? The basestation's emissions could be considered 'private' even though they're not. The traffic could contain unencrypted voice packets, too. At 03:15 PM 7/16/02 -0400, Dave Emery wrote:
The House just passed the Cyber Electronic Security Act last night (7/15/02) by an overwhelming margin of 385-3.
What this does is change the penalty for the first offense of intercepting an unscrambled and unencrypted radio communication that is
not supposed to be listened to (eg AMPS cellular calls, commercial pagers, cordless phones, common carrier communications) for hobby purposes (eg not a tortuous or illegal purpose or for direct or indirect commercial advantage or private commercial gain) from a misdemeanor (one year or less prison time) to a federal FELONY (5 years prison time).
And further this changes the status of the specific offense of listening to a cell call, cordless call, a pager, or a public land mobile radio service communication (eg a telephone interconnect) from a
minor offense for which one can be fined a maximum of $500 to a federal
FELONY for which one can be imprisoned for up to 5 years.

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 10:04:29AM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Nice post,
Thanks - and sorry for the typos - never trust a dyslexic to proofread...
Could this be warped into affecting wardriving for 802.11b connections? The basestation's emissions could be considered 'private' even though they're not. The traffic could contain unencrypted voice packets, too.
18 USC 2511 (the ECPA) reads ...
Except as otherwise specifically provided in this chapter any person who
(a) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept, any wire, oral, or electronic communication;
....
shall be punished as provided in subsection (4) or shall be subject to suit as provided in subsection (5).
.... THE CRITICAL EXCEPTIONS FOR RADIO SIGNALS FOLLOW...
(g) It shall not be unlawful under this chapter or chapter 121 of this title for any person -
(i) to intercept or access an electronic communication made through an electronic communication system that is configured so that such electronic communication is readily accessible to the general public;
(ii) to intercept any radio communication which is transmitted -
(I) by any station for the use of the general public, or that relates to ships, aircraft, vehicles, or persons in distress;
(II) by any governmental, law enforcement, civil defense, private land mobile, or public safety communications system, including police and fire, readily accessible to the general public;
(III) by a station operating on an authorized frequency within the bands allocated to the amateur, citizens band, or general mobile radio services; or
(IV) by any marine or aeronautical communications system;
(iii) to engage in any conduct which -
(I) is prohibited by section 633 of the Communications Act of 1934; or
(II) is excepted from the application of section 705(a) of the Communications Act of 1934 by section 705(b) of that Act;
(iv) to intercept any wire or electronic communication the transmission of which is causing harmful interference to any lawfully operating station or consumer electronic equipment, to the extent necessary to identify the source of such interference; or
(v) for other users of the same frequency to intercept any radio communication made through a system that utilizes frequencies monitored by individuals engaged in the provision or the use of such system, if such communication is not scrambled or encrypted.
There is a defination of what "readily accessible to the general public" means in section 2510:
(16)
''readily accessible to the general public'' means, with respect to a radio communication, that such communication is not -
(A)
scrambled or encrypted;
(B)
transmitted using modulation techniques whose essential parameters have been withheld from the public with the intention of preserving the privacy of such communication;
(C)
carried on a subcarrier or other signal subsidiary to a radio transmission;
(D)
transmitted over a communication system provided by a common carrier, unless the communication is a tone only paging system communication;
or (E)
transmitted on frequencies allocated under part 25, subpart D, E, or F of part 74, or part 94 of the Rules of the Federal Communications Commission, unless, in the case of a communication transmitted on a frequency allocated under part 74 that is not exclusively allocated to broadcast auxiliary services, the communication is a two-way voice communication by radio;
Certainly wardriving for encrypted (WEP) signals is very clearly illegal (and now a felony by the way - even before the CSEA becomes law). And wardriving for any access points provided by common carriers (becoming more common in some places I understand as carriers go into that business) would clearly be illegal. But the modulation in 802.11 is public... so nothing is wrong there. And the frequencies are public (and a ham band to boot)... It is quite possible that the frequencies allocated to the amateur radio service clause would apply and trump everything else - especially if you are a ham as most of the 2.4 ghz 802.11b band is also allocated as a ham band. I know of no court tests of whether the cordless phone prohibitions (with cordless phones at both 2.4 ghz and 900 mhz which are both ham bands too) apply to hams intercepting cordless phones that also operate in those bands... nor how that impacts WEP interception. -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die@die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

How is this legal? How is it legal to outlaw reception of radio transmissions under the FCC act of 1934? I have never understood this. I keep expecting at some point, someone will somehow come up with a good reason to take a monitoring claim to the US supreme court and get all these laws tossed aside. But I guess I am expecting too much. For all of it's faults, the fcc act of '34 established in law that the air waves are public property, that broadcasters operate under license and don't own jack shit, and that broadcasters must act in "the public interest, convenience, and necessity." Even during war time in the 40's it was established that anyone could "monitor" as the air waves are public property. However, it was further established that one could not act upon reception of certain broadcasts with malicious intent and blah blah blah. How in the hell have all these anti-monitoring laws gotten passed? Do any of our lawmakers have any clue how the law works at all? This is sickening. *WE THE PEOPLE* own the airwaves. PERIOD. Sony doesn't own them, Verizon doesn't own them, for heavens sake, CNN certainly doesn't own them, and as far as sat tv goes, neither does the Playboy channel. WE own them.

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, at 08:00 AM, cubic-dog wrote:
How is this legal?
How is it legal to outlaw reception of radio transmissions under the FCC act of 1934?
I have never understood this. I keep expecting at some point, someone will somehow come up with a good reason to take a monitoring claim to the US supreme court and get all these laws tossed aside. But I guess I am expecting too much.
I thought everyone knew that the U.S. Constitution was secretly suspended by the Emergency Secrecy Order of 1862, with the suspension renewed and expanded by the Double Secret Emergency Order of 1913, establishing the Federal Reserve and imposing personal income reporting orders. And in the 1930s the Communists in power imposed more secret orders than I can hope to list. One of these was the That Which Cannot be Written Down secret order on radio and newspaper distribution. Since then, both fascist and communist regimes have expanded the list of secret orders. The fact that many regulations contradict each other is seen a a feature rather than as a bug. --Tim May "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General

At 11:00 AM 07/18/2002 -0400, cubic-dog wrote:
How is it legal to outlaw reception of radio transmissions under the FCC act of 1934?
The laws that established the FCC were just laws - they're not Supreme Court decisions that are hard to change. Congress made them, Congress can unmake them, change them, or replace them with totally different laws. They're not engraved in stone requiring Constitutional Amendments to fix - they're written in sand, and if the wind blows the other direction and 51% of Congress wants to change them, they're changed. The FCC has limitations on how much *they* can change basic structures set out in the laws, but the laws give them a lot of flexibility too. The real stability is that the current regulatory structure gives big economic advantages to the entrenched players, so they're going to resist changes that stop favoring them, while the regulatory bureaucracy gets a lot of power and influence from giving favors to the big players, so they don't rock the boat either.
I have never understood this. I keep expecting at some point, someone will somehow come up with a good reason to take a monitoring claim to the US supreme court and get all these laws tossed aside. But I guess I am expecting too much.
Nobody's had a good enough case, and the lawmakers have tended to go along with the FCC on things like laws against monitoring unencrypted cellphones (the alternative would have been removing laws and policies that banned or discouraged encrypted cellphones, which they didn't want back then, because Commies might use them or the FBI might have trouble wiretapping cell phones without getting proper warrants.)
For all of it's faults, the fcc act of '34 established in law that the air waves are public property, that broadcasters operate under license and don't own jack shit, and that broadcasters must act in "the public interest, convenience, and necessity." .... *WE THE PEOPLE* own the airwaves. PERIOD.
It was a terrible policy and we've suffered from it ever since*. It's led to the current media oligopolies, with a narrow spectrum of opinions from the pro-establishment pro-government corporatists, pernicious policies of political correctness that, while not as strict today as they were in the 50s, still strongly limit the kinds of content you see on TV - and all of these were the kinds of things that the policies were *intended* to do. Unintended effects of the policies include decades of restricted access to telecommunications in rural areas (because the FCC's radio monopolies prevented development of economical scalable radio-based telephony, which fit just fine with the FCC's support for wireline telco monopolies.) This also delayed practical mobile technology for a decade or two. Look at the explosion of interest in 802.11 wireless as an example of what happens when you've got even a small space available to use by the public rather than the bureaucracy and its friends. Dave Farber and Gerry Faulhaber have a bunch of papers and a presentation at http://rider.wharton.upenn.edu/~faulhabe/NEW_SPECTRUM_MANAGEMENT.PDF There's further discussion at http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200206/msg0008... and a long nice article from the Seattle Times at http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134476462_spectrum1... The 1934 policies took spectrum that was a commons available to everyone, seized and nationalized it in the name of "the public", and turned it into a tool for political patronage. Competition for use of the spectrum worked fairly well before that, and it wasn't just because of the primitive state of technology - Italy did without radio spectrum licensing through most of the 80s and 90s (they had an official bureaucracy, but it's greed was exceeded by its incompetence, so the radio broadcasters started to just ignore it; this lasted until right-wing media magnate Berlisconi became prime minister.) Farber and Faulhaber point out that the regulatory environment is incompetent, inefficient, and unnecessary, and make a good comparison to the old Soviet GOSPLAN economic central planners; they argue as engineers as well as economists. While I disagree with their recommendations (big-bang auction of the whole spectrum, and let the government bid on some space for unlicensed commons) it couldn't be much worse than the current system. ------------ * In David Brin's recent speech at the Libertarian Party National Convention, he reminded us all that "FDR was 60 years ago - get over it!" :-)
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Bill Stewart
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cubic-dog
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Dave Emery
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Major Variola (ret)
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Tim May