I, too, am disturbed and worried by the abuses and politically incorrect postings being sent through anonymous remailers, so I support the calls by some on this list for censorship of various "bad" postings. Topics for banning: - hatred, such as the hatred some have for particular operating systems (unless the hatred is for DOS, which is justifiable, and hence acceptable). - advocacy of violence, which is why postings about Rambo movies and various porno movies (violence against women, don't you know?) need to be blocked by remailers. "Women Against Pornography" will be happy to instruct us on what media materials are acceptable and what are not. Jesse Helms, who is working closely with Andrea Dworkin and other feminists, will be happy to provide a list of banned topics. - this ban on advocating violence will also of course cover discussions of the Mideast, Bosnia, and the student uprisings in China several years ago (there was a lot of advocacy of violence then--can't have a repeat of that!). Let's all chant: "Hey Ho, Hi Ho, "rec.guns" has got to go." - ethnic slurs and advocacy of racial superiority (unless it involves the heartfelt calls for action by our oppressed African-American brothers and sisters, who have every right to call us honkies and advocate burning down our cities--we just can't tolerate those who call themselves "Aryan-Americans"). - advocacy of illegal acts, including nearly all postings to alt.drugs, alt.sex.children, talk.bizarre, and sci.crypt.underground. Come to think of it, perhaps those groups should just be shut down? - anonymous phone calls apparently are possible...perhaps we can require all phone calls go through government-cleared operators? And I have even heard that anonymous letters--even threats, blackmail (wonder where _that_ name came from?), pornography, and extortion demands--are possible using the U.S. mail system! How can this be? What can we do? I know, let's censor the mail system the same way we plan to censor the Net! So, you anarchists, let's implement these bans on what goes through remailers! One small problem: how can we do this when everyone's a remailer? When multiple routes exist? When sites are in many countries? Hmmmhhh...perhaps we censors just need to shut down the nets and stop all this loose talk. -Tim, applying for a job as a Usenet censor -- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: MailSafe and PGP available.