CDR: Where indeed is John Young?
Tim asked where John Young might be, in considering Jim Bell's predicament. I notice that nothing new has been posted to Cryptome since Nov. 4. Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
Tim asked where John Young might be, in considering Jim Bell's
Given the reality and postings to the list, I wouldn't doubt the fbfeds or local police picked him up for pre-meditated stalking. Also of note, its a private sub division, and the info was posted publicly (observations) without auth from the people nor auth to inspect the property, among other things. Depends on state laws there. I dont see how people can be so blatently stupid, esp when they are expected to have a slight hint of competance... Why not call on the phone and ask them? But public statement of intent and then to actually go out there most definitely got someone arrested for being stupid. Why is the world being so dumb? Oh well. Lets hope its a quick review and fine, nothing more. (My personal statement was "dumba.." upon reading the 11/4 post...) -Wilfred Wilfred@Cryogen.com [ Because I have nothing better to do than laugh at woolies... ] At 08:27 PM 11/9/2000 -0500, you wrote: predicament. I
notice that nothing new has been posted to Cryptome since Nov. 4.
Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
I was reviewing the files about Jim Bell via John's Web Site noticed one of the conditions of his probation: (found at: http://www.parrhesia.com/jimbell/appeal1.txt ) 15. The defendant shall not possess or use address or locator computer database files, such as DMV, voter registration, national phone directories, real estate records, etc. I can't readily discern the time frame when his probation started, but it appears that he is either still on probation, or has just completed it. I'm basing this conclusion on another one of his probation conditions: 13. The defendant shall not possess or use a computer or use the Internet without permission of the Probation Officer. Did he have permission ? Neil M. Johnson njohnson@interl.net http://www.interl.net/~njohnson PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilfred L. Guerin" <Wilfred@Cryogen.com> To: <cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: CDR: Re: Where indeed is John Young?
Given the reality and postings to the list, I wouldn't doubt the fbfeds or local police picked him up for pre-meditated stalking.
Also of note, its a private sub division, and the info was posted publicly (observations) without auth from the people nor auth to inspect the property, among other things. Depends on state laws there.
I dont see how people can be so blatently stupid, esp when they are expected to have a slight hint of competance...
Why not call on the phone and ask them? But public statement of intent and then to actually go out there most definitely got someone arrested for being stupid.
Why is the world being so dumb?
Oh well. Lets hope its a quick review and fine, nothing more. (My personal statement was "dumba.." upon reading the 11/4 post...)
-Wilfred Wilfred@Cryogen.com
[ Because I have nothing better to do than laugh at woolies... ]
Tim asked where John Young might be, in considering Jim Bell's
At 08:27 PM 11/9/2000 -0500, you wrote: predicament. I
notice that nothing new has been posted to Cryptome since Nov. 4.
Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
Neil, That's not an unreasonable suspicion. A better source of Bellinfo might be, however, this: http://www.jya.com/jdbfiles.htm My suspicion -- it's too late in the evening for me to research thing -- is that the probation conditions applied before he was rearrested in 1998, imprisoned, and released. -Declan On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:30:37PM -0600, Neil Johnson wrote:
I was reviewing the files about Jim Bell via John's Web Site noticed one of the conditions of his probation:
(found at: http://www.parrhesia.com/jimbell/appeal1.txt )
15. The defendant shall not possess or use address or locator computer database files, such as DMV, voter registration, national phone directories, real estate records, etc.
I can't readily discern the time frame when his probation started, but it appears that he is either still on probation, or has just completed it.
I'm basing this conclusion on another one of his probation conditions:
13. The defendant shall not possess or use a computer or use the Internet without permission of the Probation Officer.
Did he have permission ?
Neil M. Johnson njohnson@interl.net http://www.interl.net/~njohnson PGP Key Finger Print: 93C0 793F B66E A0C7 CEEA 3E92 6B99 2DCC
----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilfred L. Guerin" <Wilfred@Cryogen.com> To: <cypherpunks@EINSTEIN.ssz.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: CDR: Re: Where indeed is John Young?
Given the reality and postings to the list, I wouldn't doubt the fbfeds or local police picked him up for pre-meditated stalking.
Also of note, its a private sub division, and the info was posted publicly (observations) without auth from the people nor auth to inspect the property, among other things. Depends on state laws there.
I dont see how people can be so blatently stupid, esp when they are expected to have a slight hint of competance...
Why not call on the phone and ask them? But public statement of intent and then to actually go out there most definitely got someone arrested for being stupid.
Why is the world being so dumb?
Oh well. Lets hope its a quick review and fine, nothing more. (My personal statement was "dumba.." upon reading the 11/4 post...)
-Wilfred Wilfred@Cryogen.com
[ Because I have nothing better to do than laugh at woolies... ]
Tim asked where John Young might be, in considering Jim Bell's
At 08:27 PM 11/9/2000 -0500, you wrote: predicament. I
notice that nothing new has been posted to Cryptome since Nov. 4.
Why do I have a bad feeling about this?
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