On Wednesday 01 January 2003 09:28, Jim Choate wrote:

... If I as an individual can not decide to take anothers life at my whim (ie 'convicted' by individual ethics) how than can a group of men do it? Can a group of men have a right that as individuals they do not? No. Ergo, the state has no 'right' (which is another hole in the logic) to take a life through some process called 'conviction'. ... The positions are actually hold-overs from past despotic mono-authoritarian world views. They have no place in a democratic society.

I am in complete agreement with Jim on this. Crap --- now I need to check my meds. SRF -- Steve Furlong Computer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel You don't expect governments to obey the law because of some higher moral development. You expect them to obey the law because they know that if they don't, those who aren't shot will be hanged. --Michael Shirley