It was encouraging to see messages about spread spectrum recently. Bypassing the telcos could be important in a crypto-hostile legal environment. And who wants to pay for message forwarding when we can do it ourselves efficiently, almost for free? A bit off topic, but I didn't start it: Someone posted a message that the Waco tank driver ID'd the tank in the Waco: The Big Lie video. But the Chrysler model equipped with a flame thrower claimed to be the tank didn't match Neil Schulman's military expert's opinion, that the model in question did not come equipped with a flame thrower, but could easily support one. Linda Thompson (W:TBL producer) then claimed it was the Chrysler flame thrower tank cleverly disguised to look like the others. As Neil told me, "First she says some animal on the tape is a squirrel. I say the zoologist says it's a chipmunk. Then she says it's a chipmunk disguised as a squirrel." For the complete detailed exchange from the Waco echo conference, e-mail me at jkhastings@aol.com or Neil at softserv@genie.geis.com. Sorry for being off topic, but government atrocities DO undermine the argument that law enforcement needs to take away your right to privacy for your own safety. And we're talking about DECIPHERING what's on the video. Yeah, that's it. "Beat the system before the system beats you." Kent - <jkhastings@aol.com>