Sorta like the National Forests... resource of many uses... may as well include a mixmaster payload in that worm :-) which also provides some other overt free benefit like antivirus or anti-helmetic or defrag or game or bayesian spamfilter or chat or screensaver or anon remailing client or free ringtone :-)"

Well, shit there's an idea. Particularly if the virus is benign enough not to get noticed too often. A mini-mixmaster is a particularly wonderful idea, if you could get it to work....in fact, imagine a mixmaster network where each node only exists for a short amount of time. Your P2P ID messages for the mixmaster network should be invisible to users of the ostensible services of course. -TD

From: "Major Variola (ret)" <mv@cdc.gov> To: "cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net" <cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net> Subject: Re: yes, they look for stego, as a "Hacker Tool" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:14:19 -0700

At 01:48 AM 8/14/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote:

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Then you have the forest where every tree is marked and the leprechaun is laughing.

Love that story. But the self-watermarking you later mention is a problem. Even if you map a particular hash into one of a million known-benign values, which takes work, there are multiple orthagonal hash algorithms included on the NIST CD. (Eg good luck finding values that collide in MD5 & SHA-1 & SHA-256 simultaneously!)

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These hash-CDROMs are also useful for finding unlicensed software and

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music....

Another reason for making your data unique.

In that case, yes, although ultimately the RIAA could hire offshore Indians to listen to your stego'd/uniquified Madonna song and identify it. (Of course, they don't know if you own the vinyl for it... and software can be sold by the original purchaser, too, right?)

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And keep your tools encrypted, or on memory sticks you can flush or snap with your fingers.

Beware of destruction of memory sticks

Yes something like a Tomlinson (_Big Breach_) sleight of hand with a Psion card is a good idea, as is the microwave oven trash can next to your machine :-)

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A neat trick to lower the suspicion-factor for stego in JPEG or video could be releasing a closed-source program for Windows as either freeware ... and there still is a segment of consumers who think that when it is free, it's worthless)

And a larger segment which will stick any CD they get in the mail into their bootable drive.. LOL

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The sheeple don't have to be only a threat. They can be useful, if their gullibility is properly exploited.

Sorta like the National Forests... resource of many uses... may as well include a mixmaster payload in that worm :-) which also provides some other overt free benefit like antivirus or anti-helmetic or defrag or game or bayesian spamfilter or chat or screensaver or anon remailing client or free ringtone :-)

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